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All Forum Posts by: Loren Whitney

Loren Whitney has started 17 posts and replied 323 times.

Post: Home Union - homeunion.com reviews

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

I believe they are established to assist with SDIRA investments already.

Post: Private Investors and Securities

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

If you have any SDIRA questions, I'm happy to help out Dave.

You may find this SEC link helpful:

http://www.sec.gov/answers/regd.htm

Post: savings

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

Great point worth making Jon! That would definitely be something to factor into long term projections before pulling the trigger. In either event, the concept of leverage in an IRA is not something to be quickly dismissed.

Post: savings

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

UDFI (Unrelated Debt Financed Income) is not a bad and scary thing.

@Jon Holdman is correct about the steep tax curves. In 2014, the maximum tax bracket is 39.6% for any net income over $12,150. Investing in high yielding debt deals or operating businesses can create tax bills quickly if you don't pay attention. See Solo(k) rules for some UDFI exemptions. 

While that tax rate above looks really ugly, the reality for most people results in minimal IRA taxation. As an example, say you NET $6,000 after depreciation and expenses on a rental property in your IRA with 65% debt-to-equity. Only 65% of that balance would be taxed ($3,900). First you deduct your $1,000 standard UBIT exemption. Now your IRA has $2,900 worth of taxable income. Anything under $2,500 is taxed at 15% (Follow Estate and Trust Brackets). The total tax due would be $475 and paid by the IRA. When you do the math, what is the effective tax rate?

Also note that if any losses occur during the first several years of operating your investment, those losses can be recorded and carried forward to offset future taxation.

As you pay down your loan balance, the debt ratio will reduce your overall exposure to UBIT as well. One common strategy is to accelerate debt reduction in an effect to avoid UBIT. It all depends of your risk tolerance and ability to finance new investments.

Using leverage in an IRA account is a rare occurance but should really be prized. Since personally guarantees are prohibited, very few (if any) brokerage accounts offer such leverage (margin) options for IRAs. Does leveraging your purchase power increase your ability to finance a more profitable property (or more properties)?

Assuming your real estate investments go as planned, you'll probably find that a leveraged real estate investment yields a higher rate of return than a non-leveraged deal in an IRA. Do the math and find out before you decide.

Check out my BiggerPockets blog for some additional commentary on UBIT.

Post: Self Rollover 401K in a IRA

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107
Thanks for the mention Walt Payne There are no "loop holes" to personally benefit from your retirement dollars today. You can however purchase real estate directly with you 401k/IRA funds. Instead of withdrawing the monies from your plan and paying the tax, you can move your funds to a provider that specializes in alternative assets. In addition to real estate, you can also lend funds and secure the note with real estate - essentially becoming the bank. Do you have any follow up questions? Check out my BP blog for more details on real estate IRA investing. Best of Luck!

Post: Solo 401k Lending to itself

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

Good thinking Dmitriy. Note that you can perform roth conversations over time (year over year), minimizing your taxable liabilities where possible. You don't have to convert it all at once.

They should have a checklist of requirements for any specifics. You should be free to construct your loan documents however you please. It's the IRA titling that's most important of all. For example, "Equity Trust Company FBO Client Name IRA". Verify exact titling as I'm unsure what their titling includes.

Post: Solo 401k Lending to itself

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

@Wes Aldo

Creative - nice thinking. 

Unfortunately, that isn't the way things work. Both traditional and Roth components can partner side-by-side but one can't provide a loan for the other. As an alternative, you could always seek non-recourse financing for the Roth from a neutral third party. Perhaps the long term tax benefits will outweigh the costs of capital?

@Bret N. 

Congrats on your first IRA experience. Hopefully Equity Trust makes the process easy for you and the IRA holder. I would suggest reaching out to ETC directly and ask them about the requirements yourself. Every SDIRA provider has different processes and paperwork. This will ensure you deliver accurate and completed documents to them the first time.

Post: Self Directed IRAs

Loren WhitneyPosted
  • Investor
  • North Idaho
  • Posts 332
  • Votes 107

Curt is right. As SDIRA providers, we're positioned as the transparent party between buyers and sellers. We cannot endorse, recommend or connect outside third parties with clients or vice versa.

That being said, get creative and figure out whats to market directly. You're after a very narrow audience. Many people are still unaware that retirement funds can be used as private money. Be sure to bring up the idea when you attend networking functions.

Feel free keep asking related questions.