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All Forum Posts by: Tyler D.

Tyler D. has started 87 posts and replied 210 times.

Post: How much should I pay to insure a $40k house?

Tyler D.Posted
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Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:

How long are you planning on having it?  How often do you use your insurance for repairs?  I'd go with the higher deductible.  The big reason for insurance is liability.

 I plan on keeping it for the long term, at least 10 years. I'm putting aside money for repairs anyway, so I don't see the need to pay this much for insurance to say, fix a roof when I could've paid for that myself. Unless the house is totally destroyed, I don't think it would be worth it.

And even IF the house is totally destroyed, I don't see why I should be paying insurance for a $140k rebuild when I can buy the same for $40k down the street.

Post: How much should I pay to insure a $40k house?

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I'm in the process of buying my first house, which is a $42k SFH that is in great condition.

I called USAA and they quoted me a $140k rebuild cost, which I thought was extreme.

Their rates were $910 for 1k deductible and $503 for $10k deductible. These don't seem worth it for a $40k house, though a $1M liability coverage is included in both.

So, your thoughts? Which of the two would you get, if either? Should I shop around for rates, or is this fairly normal and to be expected?

Post: How to do rehab for out of state property?

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Originally posted by @Alexander Felice:

you need to spend a lot of time networking with local investors. You can't have just the one person. 

who is going to property manage the place? can they help with this? What about backup contractors? Have you flown out the area to meet people and see the general area? 

essentially, you need a team of people to do this OOS. one is not enough imo . 

Local investors or local contractors, agents, etc? I have a property manager who will be managing it after the purchase, yes.

My question is how do I let the contractor in and supervise the work when I am not physically there. Will a property manager do this? For 10% of rent/ month, I doubt it, but I'd love to be proven wrong. 

Post: How to do rehab for out of state property?

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I am in the process of buying a SFH that needs some minor rehab. I need to have the flooring redone.

However, I am out of state. I have a contractor that already gave me a quote and is willing to do the work, but how will I let him in/ verify the work is done from out of state?

Post: Mortgage Term/Amortization, is it worth it?

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Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:

It is $50 k, why not just pay it off in the next few years? You really want to just pay only almost interest on it for 5 years When you can probably have it paid off in 3 or 4?

For the same reason I'd want to pay interest on a $500k house. Leverage. 

 A couple thoughts here.

1. Interest is going to be pretty minimal on $50.k on your two options.

2. Interest rates are super low right now and odds are will be higher in 5 years.

I would take the fixed rate over 20 years. Why take on interest rate risk for $50 a month in cash flow. Now if you were going to pay it off in 5 years go with the low rate.

I agree, but I am looking at a large scale. Think 10 homes @ 50k each. Look at it like a 500k home. What would you do in that situation?

I'm thinking the fixed would be the smarter option, though. Am I understanding how term/amortization works correctly?

 Yes you understand it. The loan will mature in 5 years and you would owe a balloon pmt. pmts would be about $50 less a month with this option. In 5 years your loan balance would be higher by about $3500 or so. Also, I would never compare a $50k house to a $500k property. Way different risk profile, appreciation, and cash flow potential.

Okay, thank you.

For the 50k to 500k comparison, we're not talking about risk profiles and appreciation. We are talking about loans. The payment on 10 50k loans @ 4.5% are exactly the same as one 500k loan at 4.5%. 

When you say it is "just $50", you're forgetting scale. $50 when we're talking about $100 cashflow is a big deal, and has a huge impact on CoC when you're looking at multiple properties.

 Tyler.  You are correct in everything you have said so far.  The only problem I see is you don't know what you will be looking at in 5 years.

Thanks Joe. Based on this I will go with the fixed rate mortgage.

Post: Mortgage Term/Amortization, is it worth it?

Tyler D.Posted
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Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:

It is $50 k, why not just pay it off in the next few years? You really want to just pay only almost interest on it for 5 years When you can probably have it paid off in 3 or 4?

For the same reason I'd want to pay interest on a $500k house. Leverage. 

 A couple thoughts here.

1. Interest is going to be pretty minimal on $50.k on your two options.

2. Interest rates are super low right now and odds are will be higher in 5 years.

I would take the fixed rate over 20 years. Why take on interest rate risk for $50 a month in cash flow. Now if you were going to pay it off in 5 years go with the low rate.

I agree, but I am looking at a large scale. Think 10 homes @ 50k each. Look at it like a 500k home. What would you do in that situation?

I'm thinking the fixed would be the smarter option, though. Am I understanding how term/amortization works correctly?

 Yes you understand it. The loan will mature in 5 years and you would owe a balloon pmt. pmts would be about $50 less a month with this option. In 5 years your loan balance would be higher by about $3500 or so. Also, I would never compare a $50k house to a $500k property. Way different risk profile, appreciation, and cash flow potential.

Okay, thank you.

For the 50k to 500k comparison, we're not talking about risk profiles and appreciation. We are talking about loans. The payment on 10 50k loans @ 4.5% are exactly the same as one 500k loan at 4.5%. 

When you say it is "just $50", you're forgetting scale. $50 when we're talking about $100 cashflow is a big deal, and has a huge impact on CoC when you're looking at multiple properties.

Post: Mortgage Term/Amortization, is it worth it?

Tyler D.Posted
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Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:
Originally posted by @Tyler D.:
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:

It is $50 k, why not just pay it off in the next few years? You really want to just pay only almost interest on it for 5 years When you can probably have it paid off in 3 or 4?

For the same reason I'd want to pay interest on a $500k house. Leverage. 

 A couple thoughts here.

1. Interest is going to be pretty minimal on $50.k on your two options.

2. Interest rates are super low right now and odds are will be higher in 5 years.

I would take the fixed rate over 20 years. Why take on interest rate risk for $50 a month in cash flow. Now if you were going to pay it off in 5 years go with the low rate.

I agree, but I am looking at a large scale. Think 10 homes @ 50k each. Look at it like a 500k home. What would you do in that situation?

I'm thinking the fixed would be the smarter option, though. Am I understanding how term/amortization works correctly?

Post: Mortgage Term/Amortization, is it worth it?

Tyler D.Posted
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 99
Originally posted by @Craig Jeppesen:

It is $50 k, why not just pay it off in the next few years? You really want to just pay only almost interest on it for 5 years When you can probably have it paid off in 3 or 4?

For the same reason I'd want to pay interest on a $500k house. Leverage. 

Post: Mortgage Term/Amortization, is it worth it?

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I am looking to refinance $50k investment property and was offered a loan with 5 year term/25 year amortization. The rate is better than anything I can get with a normal loan (4% vs 5.5% for a 20yr fixed refi). 

As I understand it, my loan would be paid at a 25-year amortization rate and I would need to refinance it after 5 years. Does it make sense to do this, or am I better off taking a worse rate for a normal fixed-rate mortgage?

Originally posted by @Michelle Martin:

@Tyler D'Alessandro I personally think the rents are too low for the price. I just walked away from a 4-plex deal in Cincinnati due to foundation/structural issues. The asking price was $109k, and it's bringing in $2300 a month. Keep looking in the Midwest.

I think I will, I want to get at least 1.2%, I think that's pretty reasonable. 

I've been looking on loopnet and MLS and 90% of the offers on there are 1% or below. I'm sure there are better properties out there though.