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All Forum Posts by: Tyson Scheutze

Tyson Scheutze has started 30 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Hey. Look Over Here!

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

Thanks for reply @Gino Barbaro  

Cheap capital and debt, Introduction of new and awesome tech and an abnormally exceptional market has definitely obscured basic management fundamentals. The normalizing market is just starting to show some of the operational issues many investors will soon be faced with. 

Post: Hey. Look Over Here!

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

Last week we had Auben Realty’s Brent Voepel talk about “The Price of Property Management” and specifically discuss (perhaps even justify?) why a 10% management fee could be a bargain for excellent property management services. Brent’s interesting blog (which can be found HERE) also posed the questions: What if management is horrible? Then what is the price?

From an investor’s perspective, it is hard to overstate the importance of professional property management and its impact on an investor’s return. And yet, most investors, big and small, individual to institutional, tend to only focus on one thing: the monthly management fee. In reality this is only one piece of the puzzle.

When I started managing single-family rental homes back in 2009 in Augusta, GA, there was less variance in the industry (and also less services available). Property management was 10% of the gross monthly collected rent. Maybe a manager would consider discounting to 8%. But the fees and services were pretty universal (at least in our markets). I was adamant about not devaluing our services and lowering rates in what I believed could only end as a “a race to the bottom” for our industry and profession. Volume property discounts were rare for us to offer, even with clients with hundreds of properties.

Little did I know how far the industry would be willing to discount and devalue its services over the next 10-15 years in pursuit of more management contracts and more doors under management.

When I started managing single family homes, lease up fees were the other main fee that investors focused on and the fees ranged from 50%-100% of the first month’s rent. Some other items came into play were manager percentage of late fees and maintenance oversight fees and renewal fees. But that was about the extent of the fee structure and services rendered.

It’s funny though, no matter what our fee structure was, investors only focused on our monthly management fee. I get it. It is the constant, recurring cost. Perhaps that singular focus perspective was possible 15 years ago. But with the array of services and fee structures current property management companies offer, it is entirely possible to pay an extremely low management fee and still be “fee-ed” to death as both an investor—and now even as a resident.

Over the past 15 years, the amount of managers and fee structure variance in our industry has been incredible. Flat fee services, multiple layer and level packages (Silver, Gold, Platinum) have accompanied all kinds of other offerings, tenant and eviction insurance, marketing fees, reporting fees, tech fees, and even talk-to-a-real person fees.

As SFR property management was evolving, an interesting thing occurred, the most capitalized and sophisticated investors (who also had the most volume of properties) asked for lower and lower fees, even as they asked for more oversight and property managers who could act like asset managers with a holistic view.

Property managers consistently battled for contracts with multifamily management level fees (4-6% monthly), even while the SFR asset class lacked the best (and most important) part of multi-family: uniformity and density. Lacking the uniformity and density, SFR property managers went heavily to more tech and less people (or at least remote people).

The tech has been incredibly beneficial for the industry but we believe the tech was intended to complement, not replace. Often, over the past 5 years in particular, tech has become the experience. It’s hard to understand how costly that tech is until you have an admin in Iowa reading from a script to renew a resident in Roanoke with no connection to the person, the property or place.

But people matter.

Residents and owners need humans (not AI) to assist in navigating them through certain aspects of their largest and most often, most emotional transaction in their lives.

Having a property management service that is connected to its communities but still offers speed and scale and oversight and efficiency is incredibly difficult, but I believe it can be done.

Post: The Price of Property Management

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

In this week’s post, I am turning it over to Brent Voepel.

I got into a conversation recently with people in the industry about the price of property management. In this discussion, we all agreed that for one property unit, the expected rate will be 10% and then it can decrease as the client adds more units or volume. As we were agreed to the normal rates in the business, I added a comment that made the group pause. What if management is horrible? Then what is the price?

Property Management is a tough business made up of various challenges that affect the managers and their ability to perform. In this ever changing world we live in, property management and business owners must adapt and change on a regular basis to keep up. Just look at the past 4-5 years. The industry has dealt with new technology geared at improving workflow and resident tours, a world-wide virus has come and gone, interest rates have drastically changed the environment and there have even been some major legislative changes that have impacted our industry. Property managers must take on these challenges if they want to realize the clients goals. These are some of the ways the clients could be affected by property managers who are not prepared:

Extended Vacancies

  • Inadequate marketing strategies and tenant screening processes can result in prolonged vacancy periods, translating into substantial lost rental income.
  • High tenant turnover due to poor resident relations further exacerbates vacancy losses.

Inadequate Maintenance and Repairs

  • Neglecting preventive maintenance and delaying necessary repairs can lead to accelerated property deterioration and higher long-term repair costs.
  • This can also negatively impact tenant satisfaction, contributing to higher turnover rates.

Legal and Compliance Issues

  • Lack of knowledge or disregard for landlord-tenant laws and regulations can expose investors to costly legal disputes and penalties.
  • Failure to properly handle security deposits, evictions, or fair housing practices can result in significant financial liabilities.

Ineffective Financial Management

  • Inaccurate budgeting, expense tracking, and financial reporting can lead to uninformed decision-making and missed opportunities for cost savings.
  • Failure to optimize tax strategies and leverage available deductions can further reduce net returns.

Diminished Property Value

  • Inadequate maintenance, high vacancy rates, and poor tenant screening can negatively impact a property’s perceived value and appreciation potential.
  • This can significantly affect the long-term return on investment when it comes time to sell the asset.

While a 10% management fee may seem reasonable for a well-performing property manager, the cumulative impact of mismanagement can quickly escalate the effective cost to investors, potentially outweighing any perceived savings on the management fee itself. Ultimately, selecting a competent and reputable property management company is crucial to safeguarding the profitability of real estate investments.

Post: Greetings From a Seasoned SFR Investor and Manager

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

Apologies your experience was not what we would want for one of our clients. Good luck with your investing. 

Post: Insights From IMN: SFR East PT. 2

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

Read below for my remaining notes from the Single Family Rental Forum (East) that are specific to build-for-rent!

NOTES

  • Build-for-rent is the only game in town.
  • Nationwide 45,000 current BFR in pipeline. There were 27,000 in 2023. There were 7000 in 2020.
  • In BTR communities, think about what do we want to charge them for vs. what do we want to give them for free?
  • Outdoor fenced space and smart home tech is expected in most BFR.
  • Maintenance experience is the number one reason tenants leave BFR.
  • BFR tenants are stickier than multifamily.
  • Leverage lessons learned from BTR pioneers.
  • Prospect pool For BFR overlaps multi and scatter sites.
  • BTR residents often want less onsite people presence. Belief is they want freedom of interaction in their experience.
  • Adjust what has been pertinent in multifamily and what has been pertinent in SFR to a better product.
  • What is the difference between a value-add and opportunistic fund?
  • One owner is looking to exit to middle to high sevens on yield on cost.
  • Cap exits are high 5’s, low 6’s for some Class A product.
  • Turnover cost projections should escalate: $500 first year, $850 second year, $1000 third year.
  • Consolidation and density of BFR assets can be an issue for insurance companies.
  • Owners should write a narrative about deals/assets for insurance providers.
  • 2-3% rent growth is always appropriate.
  • Rents are flattening.
  • Buyers are focusing on untrended rents.
  • Getting the pig through the snake, as an analogy for getting through current excess rental inventory absorption to get to a gap that will exist in a couple of years.
  • A lot of opportunities to buy aged C-class homes at 8, 9, 10 caps.
  • Small investor expense ratios are 40%.
  • Large operator expense ratios are 37/38 %.
  • Large platforms/institution expense ratios are 33/34%
  • Big benefit of blanket insurance policies is to drive costs down.
  • A lot of BFR is looking for a bridge product for 2 years to hope rates get back down in the 5% range.
  • Cannot use HPA on BFR communities you plan on selling based on cash flow.
  • 5-18% rental premium being achieved based on new construction communities compared to new construction scatter sites.
  • For real time comps go to biggest operators BFR, small multifamily.
  • More confidence about the cost of construction having stabilized.
  • Some products which will not be good for retail buyers will also not be good for rentals.
  • What is core + capital?
  • On-site, timely maintenance is #1 amenity for BFR.
  • You are buying a stabilized untrended yield on cost.
  • Apartment data is very good for BFR.
  • BTR more resilient to flat rental growth.
  • Fundamentals of BFR are normalizing.
  • Look at supply coming into any market you are developing.
  • Look at yields that are accretive to debt.
  • Investors in 2021 and 2022 looking at just yields and not market value of their assets.
  • Put together asymmetry in your investments, cap the downside but stack upside.
  • Underwriting the choppiness for the next 5 years, supply constraints will make a huge demand.
  • Fundamentals are stronger now than they have been in the past 5 years.

Post: Insights from IMN: Single Family Rental Forum East

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

@Robert Ellis

Thanks for the resources and your perspective. 

We can agree to disagree on the level of standardization in BFR.

Having met with some of the largest BFR capital allocators and aggregators in March in Nashville and last week in Miami, I can tell you many people are doing (and speaking of) BFR differently. 

As one participant said, build for rent is so broad it has become a bumper sticker which gets you 40 basis points on your financing.

It sounds like you personally are focused on an urban infill strategy which maximizes density and price per square foot rent. To some buckets of capital that is BFR, and to some it is not.

To some capital, as long as the product is not traditional vertical, apartment-style product then it is still build for rent.

The biggest evolution I have seen in Build for rent recently is the transition to multi-parcel and for sale/for rent hybrid developments which is contrary to what was more standard in build for rent 5 years ago---traditional single parcel developments for density and tax purposes.

I am seeing a lot of (most) developers currently go to the multi-parcel format for optionality of exit to offset market volatility.

The best definition I have seen for build for build for rent is non-apartment style, intentionally built rental communities.

Some of the types of products I am seeing labeled as build for rent include elements of the following or these developments are currently incorporating product labeled BFR:

Suburban tract built home communities

attached and detached townhome communities

master planned communities

mixed use communities

cottage style home communities

urban infill communities

patio style home communities

new modernism and new urbanism neighborhoods

stick built small home communities

horizontal apartment home communities with greater green space and more community programming

Let's catch up at some point to discuss further. You are in a market, we love. 

Post: Insights from IMN: Single Family Rental Forum East

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

@Robert Ellis Thanks for offering your perspective. Build for rent is just coming into its own and lacks standardization. What is called build for rent is very broad and varies considerably even in the same market. The build for rent we pursue is about density, but not maximizing density at the cost of the experience and community of our residents. The maximum density build for rent, we view more as a traditional apartment community product.  

Post: Insights from IMN: Single Family Rental Forum East

Tyson Scheutze
Property Manager
Posted
  • Investor
  • Charleston, SC
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 44

The IMN Single Family Rental East and West conferences are always great opportunities to meet with the most active residential rental experts in the country. And this week's conference in Miami delivered lots of insight as usual. The mood was decidedly more pragmatic than the unbridled enthusiasm of some past events. But accompanying a more measured tone was also the noticeable maturation of thought around the still developing SFR and BFR asset classes.

The consensus, not surprisingly, was that we are in uncertain times but there are certain societal and market fundamentals that make residential rental property, aka SFR and BFR, extremely attractive asset classes, short-term, mid-term and long-term.

This thesis statement was driven by the collective understanding that there are significant rental inventory supply issues in most markets in the country. Even those markets with oversupply are believed to be lacking significant supply for the mid-term and long-term needs. As one participant said, it is not 2009 and inventory will not be coming from foreclosures.

The main takeaway is that the best (and only) way forward is going to be in the construction of new, intentional build-for-rent (BFR) communities. The biggest constraint on these communities is financing rate uncertainty. As rates go, we all go. Read below for notes from the conference and look for notes next week specific to BFR.

NOTES

- Home buying is currently double the cost of renting in most markets. Home price appreciation outpaced even aggressive projections.
- One operator said their data showed slow interest in applications Q1, uptick April/May that also is being accompanied by FICO rate increase.
- Insurance costs are the biggest issue for investors, rates could be higher for a lot longer. The best exit for many SFR aggregators is adding to MLS, for potential purchase by owner occupants.
- M&A opportunity is currently turbo-charged in our space.
- Many sellers of portfolios have been more moms and pops and smaller mom and pop owners are still bringing their smaller portfolios to market.
- Current inventory we’re seeing is not coming from foreclosures. It is not 2009.
- It is as much about stability of rate as it is about reduction of rate.
- Investment going into tier 2 or 3 markets with less insurance risks.
- Service providers are offering more and more operating services.
- Lenders are not balance sheet lenders. They are looking for an exit for their loans.
- Investors would be wise to look into stabilized bridge products with low prepayment penalties.
- Prepayment options have become more flexible.
- There are a lot more bridge loans for rental products, different than original conceptions of bridge products.
- Lenders want to work only with sponsors/operators they are already comfortable with
- Capital is meeting the needs of investors, more flexible.
- The biggest factors for lenders are LTV, FICO, DSCR.
- In a tight DSCR environment, insurance is becoming increasingly important. Needs to be collected early.
- 3% rent growth and 3% HPA is being modeled in most markets.
- Most current rates are in the 7-7.75% range.
- Competitive pressure to deploy capital compressing dropping of rates.
- Buyers are underwriting portfolios to as-is rents.
- Machine learning models are helping to reduce risks.
- Reverse migration to Rust Belt is occurring based on affordability issues elsewhere.
- Scatter site is a defensive asset offering a lot of optionality.
- Market conditions are challenging for scatter site hold unless you are underwriting a 10-year hold.
- Setting up operations for SFR from scratch is very difficult.
- One investor is buying at cap rates in 5s or 6s. Their core product funds return low teens IRR. Their opportunistic fund returns IRRs in the high teens / low twenties. An Atlanta broker reported the average size of 20-30 units at 6 caps.
- Every lender has a certain amount of distress currently. You may not know it.
- Short term rental first bucket of distress based on municipalities prohibiting.
- One broker is targeting retirement age portfolio owners.
- ADU market should be strong for a long time to come.
- Use bandit signs for disposition.
- One investor said for their property sourcing, they are touching people 80-90 times before they buy.
- All lead gen is 90 days out of activity before hits happen.
- There are cost segmenting services that let you do cost segmentation for $450.
- You can’t monitor what you can’t measure.
- Asset management is building client feedback into customization of investment strategy.

    Post: Lessons from the "Missing Middle"

    Tyson Scheutze
    Property Manager
    Posted
    • Investor
    • Charleston, SC
    • Posts 46
    • Votes 44

    In this week’s blog, I am turning it back over to COLE THOMPSON. He continues with Part Two of his three-part series.

    In the ever-changing landscape of residential construction and development in the southeastern United States, adaptability and resilience have been constant companions. As we reflect on the challenges faced during the financial crises of 2007-2012 and draw parallels to the current market conditions of 2024, one concept stands out: the “Missing Middle.”

    The term “Missing Middle” refers to the scarcity of housing options between single-family homes and large-scale apartment complexes. This gap in the market has become increasingly pronounced, posing challenges for both developers and consumers alike.

    During the Great Recession, the housing market saw a shift towards multifamily rental properties as homeownership became less attainable for many. This trend has continued into 2024, with an increasing demand for rental housing driving up prices and creating affordability challenges for middle-income families.

    To address this issue, developers and construction companies have begun to explore innovative solutions such as “Build-for-Rent” projects. These developments offer the amenities and privacy of single-family homes with the flexibility and affordability of rental properties, filling the “Missing Middle” gap in the market.

    Another trend that has emerged is the use of light gauge steel construction, which offers durability, efficiency, and cost-effectiveness. This method has gained popularity among developers looking to build affordable housing quickly and sustainably.

    Additionally, developers have diversified their portfolios by introducing new product types such as townhomes, duplexes, and triplexes. These smaller-scale developments not only cater to the growing demand for affordable housing but also promote community living, walkability and neighborhood or community revitalization.

    Collaboration has been key in navigating these challenges, with developers, lenders, and policymakers working together to find innovative solutions. Strategic partnerships and alliances have enabled industry players to pool resources and expertise, ensuring the success of new projects in a challenging market.

    As we look towards the future, it is clear that the “Missing Middle” will continue to be a focal point for residential construction and development in the southeastern US. By embracing innovation, fostering collaboration, and remaining adaptable in the face of adversity, we can overcome the challenges of today and build a brighter future for our communities.

    Post: The State of the Industry From an Expert's Perspective

    Tyson Scheutze
    Property Manager
    Posted
    • Investor
    • Charleston, SC
    • Posts 46
    • Votes 44

    @Jena Vail the ideal locations are usually the same places traditional homebuilders are looking.