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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Stevens

Jordan Stevens has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Various Wholesaling questions

Jordan StevensPosted
  • Belleville, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1

Hey BP, good evening. I just got my real estate business on the ground, and I'm gonna give Wholesaling a shot. I've done my homework, and I know what it will take to be successful at it. It's gonna take lots of HUSTLE, HONESTY and PATIENCE to do this the right way. However, I have some questions and I hope that they can be Answered here.

Per Michigan real estate law, you can only do 5 RE transactions a year without a licensed broker. Is there any way to use a broker in a wholesale deal, more specifically, in each type of wholesale deal? (assignment of contract, LLC assignment and double closing?)

Also, I have a set of contracts that I'm going to be using. One of them is for a double closing, one is for signing up a house with the motivated seller, and others are for other scenarios. What I want to know here is which contract I use with who in the event of a double closing. I'm guessing that I use the motivated seller contract WITH the motivated seller, AND the double closing contract would be used for the end buyer. However, I'd like to make sure and I'm hoping someone could let me know. If you'd like to see the contracts I'll post them.

I also had another question but it escaped my mind - must have not been a big deal, but if it comes back I'll post it.

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I really only like Quit Claim deeds in very particular circumstances.  In short, I do not like them to be used to transfer title.  They can be used to help verify there is not a particular cloud on a title.

There is no reason to take a lot of time in this post explaining what they should be used for.  Not using them unless a title company suggests they need one is a good rule.

 I understand them a little more now so the explanation isn't really needed anymore. All I know is that they sound scary. I'll keep that last bit about the title companies in mind though. Thanks!

Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

A seller tries to take away any possible warranties. The less the buyer agrees to the better for them.

As a purchaser you want exactly the opposite. You want the most security for reps and warranties from the seller. This way if something goes wrong in theory you have recourse against them. Collecting is a whole other issue.

 I see. Thanks again for your input!

Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

General warranty deed - Highest level and the seller warrants the whole time in the chain of title.

Limited warranty deed or also called special warranty deed - The time of ownership the current seller has had the property they are warranting but nothing else.

Quit Claim - Whatever interest they have in the property they are giving to you. These have a time and place but not typically for a purchase and sale. They are not warranting anything.

You should at least get a special warranty deed and have owners title insurance and check specific exclusions to the policy.

The deal sounds tight from what you have posted. If the repairs are more than expected and resale price is lower your margins go out the window. You have to be careful with wholesaler types as they typically over estimate ARV value and underestimate repairs to make the deal look better than it is.

No legal advice given.

 Thanks, Joel! As much as I want to jump in, I know it's not a good thing to do without due diligence. If I can't get a limited warranty deed, I may back out of the deal and go find another. 

Are wholesalers only able to use quit-claim deeds?

Originally posted by @Trey Nixon:

One of the most important members of your team you assemble for flipping is your closing attorney. Find one that does a lot of real estate deals, closings, etc. I have done a bunch of business with mine and they know I'm a repeat customer. They offer me cash closings for $450, which includes everything (title paperwork, contract review, etc). They are also investors themselves and have really helped me out with introducing me to other players that have helped me out. They have also called me and said, walk away from this deal and that was wise advice. Good luck!

 I'll definitely look into an investor-savvy attorney. Right now I don't have one and I feel naked and afraid. But I'm going to start looking. Thanks for the heads up!

Originally posted by @Josh Burnett:

Hey jordan I agree that seems sketchy. I'd also like to touch on your numbers.
If your going to be using hard money, I would definitely get a more solid number for the ARV. Always think of the worst case scenario to keep you safe
Ie: ARV-120k
Rehab-45k Your profit- 25% of the ARV is what most flippers look for so your profit 30k
Purchase price-60k
60k+30k+45k=your already at 135k right here 15k over your low ARV, this isn't counting your percentage rates you'll have to pay back to your hard money lender if your not using your own capital. If you borrow the 105k you'll need to purchase and rehab lets just say you'll have to give back 18% that's almost 20k so that puts you at 155k
If you borrow your amount needed to borrow would be If the ARV is 150k I'd be more comfortable with that deal since these are just rough numbers. Also does that 60k include the wholesalers fee?

Yes, the $60k includes the wholesale fee.

Michael, would I be able to negotiate the type of deed used? If so, which one is the best to use?

Hi BiggerPockets. This is my first post. I am also a newbie in real estate, but I've been studying it for about a year now. I've decided to get my feet wet and go for my first deal.

Currently I'm in contact with someone who has a home under contract. They're asking about $60k for the home. It needs $20-$40k in rehab, and can be resold for about $120-$150k. Make no mistake, I like the house and I want to buy it. But there's just a little something I need to ask you guys. It has to do with the closing.

The contract holder is going to quit-claim deed the property to a new LLC with a name of my choice, and then sell the LLC for the wholesale fee. Could someone please explain how this particular closing process would work? I've googled quit-claim deeds and they seem sketchy, but I still don't understand them clearly. An explanation of quit-claim deeds and how they work, and how this one would work in this particular deal would be phenomenal.

Let me know!

-Jordan