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All Forum Posts by: Everett E.

Everett E. has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Structuring a sweat equity partnership

Everett E.Posted
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I've been talking to a friend about going in on a sweat equity deal together in a market I feel has a lot of potential in the near term. I'd put in the down payment and pay for materials and he would live in the home and remodel the house. After a few years, we would split the profits, defined as appreciation minus costs. I've never done something like this and am curious about the best way to structure it. Would I create an LLC for the property with an operating agreement? Would I just have him sign a lease with these stipulations in place?

As far as exit criteria, we'd hold onto the property one of us wanted out, in which case we'd sell the house or one of us would buy out the other. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'm currently talking to a financial advisor with RBC Wealth Management that I met through the Bigger Pockets forums (Hi Dan, if you're reading this) about investing an inheritance from my grandfather in real estate syndications as a form of passive income. There is a 1% annual fee on the total investment, but he's telling me that the syndications they have access to have a proven record of bringing in mid teens. This significantly outperforms my original plan of investing a chunk of the money in Fundrise, but I wanted to get some second opinions. I know syndications carry an element of risk and it brings comfort knowing that the ones I'm using are being vetted by a professional, but are there benefits to doing this myself and not using a middle man? What are some things I should watch out for here? 

I really appreciate you guys being willing to share your collective wisdom with a novice like myself.

Originally posted by @Daniel McNulty:

@Everett E.

There are many better RE funds available than FundRise.

They are an average operator and are having liquidity problems. You can do better than that.

Other than that, not a half bad plan.

Good luck!

Any you would recommend?

Originally posted by @Michael Swan:

Swanny says there will be some great deals a year from now or early in 2022.

“Whatever the mind can conceive and believe it will achieve!!!“ Napolean Hill

Swanny

What's your reasoning for predicting deals a year from now? Mortgages failing due to COVID?

Originally posted by @David S.:
Originally posted by @Craig Janet:

How much do you need to retire comfortably? How much risk are you willing to take. 2.5Mil in a CD could get you $75K per year for doing absolutely nothing. Add one or two SFHs with a good property manager and your easily over $100K per year with very little risk and no work. If it were me I would do this:

1. 1 Million Cash/CD- $30K per year

2. 500K in SFHs- $50K

3. 500K- Dividend Stocks- $20K

4. 500K Buy House, Car, Boat, etc. Cash

That would give you $120k per year with no bills and you can blow every penny of it because you're still worth 2.5Mil and growing. That's my two cents but I pretty conservative and would be happy living a modest lifestyle.

Based on the math here, I wouldn't take this advice. ;)

 Thanks for double checking that.

Originally posted by @Alice Huang:

@Everett E.

Do you have a solid CPA who’s investment savvy yet? The only “fee-based financial advisors” I would hire, suggested by Jim, is a savvy CPA who can help you plan your future and taxes.

Having worked for “financial advisors” during my college years, stay away from them! Majority of them just “invest” in whatever fetches them the highest fees.

Also for everyone else, why not ask the BP forum? We are a group of savvy investors right? Unlike those self-proclaimed financial advisors who are actually employees...

 Thank you for the informative response and addressing the haters.

Originally posted by @Scott W.:

@Everett E.  Sorry for your loss and please be on guard during this fragile time. You will have a lot of people give you advice or investment opportunities that could set you backwards. Real estate is a team sport so it’s great that you are seeking advice just realize a lot of people are just out for themselves and will make sure they profit from the deal vs you. Other well meaning people will just give bad advice without knowing. :-)  Your portfolio looks good in that you are diversifying but a few cautions/recommendations:

1. Be careful investing and partnering with family and friends and make sure your lead investor has experience with working in multifamily. You have the money now you are looking for passive income and are in a position to re-chart your life. Just realize as fast as the money comes in, it can go out much faster.  I’ve invested in a multifamily syndicate where the lead investor is experienced and I get passive returns. This is retirement money I took out of the stock market and keeping in there for the long haul. If this investor does well I’ll put some more money in and slowly let experience guide me with this person. Do the same and stay alert and diligent.

2. I think your cash position is a little too small right now with all the craziness in the world. The laws being passed to prevent evictions, COVID madness, election “fun”! There is a lot of turmoil and it would be wise to have a little more cash on hand while you get some training and education to make sure you make the right investments.

3. Family, friends and professionals who don’t have experience with money, real estate or both. On the flip side, careful with the “experts” who will leave you high and dry


Blessings to you and your family during this crazy time. Keep seeking, knocking and asking! (Much due diligence on advice received and taken to heart.)

Scott

Thank you for the thoughtful response, those were some very helpful things to consider.

Originally posted by @Jim K.:

You gotta be kidding me. You were lucky enough to inherit $2.5 million because you came out of the right cloaca, and now you're asking strangers on Bigger Pockets for investment advice. Hire a fee-based financial advisor. Don't be a total fool.

 Who hurt you?

I made a post about a year ago asking for advice on investing some inheritance money. My grandpa's estate turned out to be incredibly complex and still hasn't been distributed, but due to some other deaths in the family it looks like my share is going to be closer to $2.5 million (500k of which is ownership of a commercial bank building). I feel the investment climate has changed radically since my last post and wanted to get some advice on the safest places (diversification, I believe, is key) to park the remaining cash that would generate enough passive income to semi-retire (these recent deaths have left me emotionally and physically exhausted and I feel I need a year or two to recover on a beach somewhere). My rough math says that with smart investments, I should be able to get between $150k and $200k in passive income, which sounds very comfortable.

With all this government money printing, I feel like inflation is about to be a huge deal and that I should convert away from fiat currency ASAP. I'm currently thinking of the following breakdown:
600k in Fundrise (seems safe and low effort)
500k in a triple net commercial property in a growing neighborhood in Arizona currently housing a BMO bank
500k in a multiunit apartment complex deal with a friend and possibly including my brother who is also getting $2.5M
300k in one or more local single family homes, Airbnb or long term rental (I think my current market has a lot of room for growth)
200k in medium risk CrowdStreet investments
200k in gold
100k in cryptocurrencies
50k for higher risk investments
50k in cash

I feel like stocks are way overpriced at the moment, and don't feel attracted to bonds (though to be honest, I haven't done a lot of research on bonds). I've been investing in Fundrise for over a year now and am pretty impressed. I haven't tried CrowdStreet but it appears to offer some higher risk/higher reward options than Fundrise. 

I'm torn between wanting to be an active investor in my current area with my own properties vs letting other people manage my money. I have a local friend who already hosts Airbnbs that would be willing to add a few more to his portfolio for some commission, but that model also seems a little risky at present.

I know gold and Bitcoin don't provide any passive income, but I think they could be a good hedge against inflation. 

Anything I'm missing as a must? How might you rebalance this portfolio?

Originally posted by @Taylor Chiu:

@Truman Ellis

Congrats on the inheritance! If you want to go very passive, syndicating as a limited partner could be a great path. You could achieve 15% returns possibly with almost no work after you bet the syndicator and the deal in the first place. Not that you would invest it all, but if you were to put 1 million into syndications, with a 15% return you could Get 150K a year, which is enough for a comfortable lifestyle.

 Thanks, I was not aware of syndications, but I'll do some research.