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All Forum Posts by: Trevor Fleck

Trevor Fleck has started 8 posts and replied 122 times.

Post: Long Distance Investing: Seek Partner or Turnkey Company?

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

@Benton Shortridge What made you target Orlando in the first place? Even if not Orlando proper, I wouldn't rule out the whole state. Florida has a lot going for it - especially post-COVID when people can choose to live near water and nice weather without leaving their jobs. Low taxes, business friendly, landlord friendly, growing population across every county in the state, etc. I'm personally investing in Cape Coral for example despite living in North Carolina and am getting BOTH great cash flow and solid appreciation. Appreciation isn't guaranteed of course, but invest in a place that has a higher upside over the long-term where people want to move. I know several others who adopt similar strategies in places like Leigh, Jacksonville, Panama City, etc. so just something to consider. Happy to share my experiences if you're interested. 

Post: Views on Turnkey Properties in the current market

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

@Frank Mancuso I second @Frank Rodrigues comments. For nearly a decade I've worked with all sorts of real estate strategies. It all comes down to time, money, and appetite for risk in my opinion (I'd add genuine interest, but the fact that we're on a BP forum likely means you're interested in the mechanics of real estate instead of just seeing it as another investment tool). All real estate investments strategies fall on a spectrum. Some are time intensive, but don't take much money and the risk is relatively low like wholesaling. Others like flipping can take a lot of time, someone's money, and be riskier - especially if the rehab scale is complex. So decide where you fall on that spectrum based on the circumstances in YOUR life. In my opinion, the really elite turnkey companies set themselves apart by acting as a mentor that plugs you into a built-in network with guardrails in place to limit your downside. This is especially advantageous to individuals who are new to real estate and don't want to completely mess up which has a higher likelihood with the first few deals or those - like myself - who know enough to know they just don't have the time any longer to vet markets, build a team, analyze countless deals, and every other minor step that seems to often be skirted over when folks on here talk about their successes. It's a lot of work and can be a full-time job! Yes, some turnkey investments can be "base-hits" although I've hit a couple "home runs" with turnkeys so that's not always the case. It kills me on some forums - particularly FIRE forums - where I see individuals spending hours analyzing which high yield savings account will get them 0.56% interest vs. 0.45% interest. If turnkeys get you in the game then fantastic - it's still the best game in the world in my opinion. Happy to share more about my turnkey experiences if you're interested. 

Post: Turnkey Investing in Cape Coral Florida?

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

@Rodney Menendez I owe you a phone call! In the meantime, my thoughts on short-term rental market in Cape Coral. @Stetson Miller had a nice post on short-term rentals. I wasn't aware of the 7 day minimum so that is a concern. Looking at some airbnb data, looks like a roughly 71% average occupancy at roughly $220-250/night. As Stetson mentions, there does seem to be a distinct high and low season. I'd imagine having a pool and a hot tub would be appealing to short-term renters but I was told the average pool will cost ~$70k these days and there is quite a backlog. I'm still a firm believer that if you know how to take great pictures, stage a place, and make it unique, you'll do just fine with short-term rentals even if it's not the "perfect" market. 

Post: Turnkey Investing in Cape Coral Florida?

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

@Matthew Pridgeon I've had pretty good luck with new construction properties to rent in Cape Coral with Rent to Retirement. I'd be happy to chat about my experiences. 

Post: Little Rock OOS Investor

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

Hi @Victor Herreria thanks for introducing yourself. I have just one turnkey property in Little Rock, but it's been a good experience. I'd love to swap experiences/contacts if you're interested. 

Post: Lessons learned from buying my FIRST rental property

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

Good choice @Jin Park. I've had a lot of success with Rent to Retirement as well and Eric is one of the best!

Post: Buying New Build from Norada in Florida (Cape Coral-build to rent

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

Hi @Shoshana Shulman I've been building in the area with two different builders using a turnkey company Rent to Retirement. Happy to share my experiences. 

Post: Sf or 2-4 door multi family Turnkey companies recommendations

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

Hi @Cindy Auch I use Rent to Retirement. You should check them out. I've vetted a lot of turnkey companies - actually visited Spartan Invest headquarters and spent a day with them to learn about their operations. I'd be happy to share my insights and experiences. PM me if you're interested. 

I'd say CAC is so market dependent. Most turnkey companies do tend to inflate their numbers a bit and leave out PM fees and other transactional fees that add up. I'd say if you're getting anything above 7-8% in true cash on cash return (unleveraged) you're doing pretty well. Appreciation of course is highly speculative and market dependent. That said, there are certain markets that have a higher probability of appreciation based on macro factors like high employment, increasing population, warm weather, low taxes, etc. 

Post: Need guidance on investing strategy

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

Got it. Congrats on getting a property in Va Beach. I'm in the Raleigh area but have a lot of experience with Rent to Retirement and have vetted several others. Happy to chat offline about my experiences if it would be helpful. Just PM me. 

Post: Lessons learned from buying my FIRST rental property

Trevor FleckPosted
  • Investor
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 123
  • Votes 329

@Jin Park thanks for sharing your experience. Which turnkey company did you end up going with and what market?