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All Forum Posts by: Trent Paulk

Trent Paulk has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Trent Paulk what are you going to do differently to screen a new PMC to avoid what just happened?

Recommend exploring as many sources as possible to get referrals AND cross-reference them to get as much accurate information as possible.

Check out NARPM.com, BP’s Property Manager Finder (BiggerPockets: The Real Estate Investing Social Network), etc.

Also, encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone gives you a referral here, do NOT make the mistake of assuming that the PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – so, they often select the first PMC they call or that calls them back!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

A well written management contract should clearly spell out what is expected of both the PMC and the owner, to PROTECT both and avoid misunderstandings. Why do you think purchase contracts are so long and have such small print?

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊


I have tried to do about 95% of what you suggested and I keep coming up empty handed when trying to find a decent PMC. That's why I posted here asking for recommendations. Unfortunately, most of the responses have not been recommendations. Instead they have been, PMC companies wanting me to jump on board with them. FWIW, the only assumption that I made was assuming that the PMC would not steal from me. Seems like a safe assumption, but maybe I should add "Do you steal from your clients?!?" to my list of PMC interview questions. 

What I would really like is to hear from property owners who have FIRST HAND experience with PMCs and can make a recommendation. 

Quote from @Jessica Larson:
Quote from @Trent Paulk:

I just got definitive proof that my PM is stealing from me. I won't go into the details but I need a new PM ASAP. I have read dozens of reviews and forum posts on PMs in the Cleveland area.  Even though I have done my own research, I still came up empty handed.  My property is in the 44111 zip code. Can anyone here please make some recommendations for a good PM.  Thank you in advance! 

Trent, sorry to hear that! Unfortunately, there is a good number of illegitimate PMs and contractors in the Cleveland area, BUT quality property management does exist here. I would be happy to chat further if you would like.


 Hi Jessica,

Yes, I would love to chat more. 

I just got definitive proof that my PM is stealing from me. I won't go into the details but I need a new PM ASAP. I have read dozens of reviews and forum posts on PMs in the Cleveland area.  Even though I have done my own research, I still came up empty handed.  My property is in the 44111 zip code. Can anyone here please make some recommendations for a good PM.  Thank you in advance! 

Quote from @Federico Gutierrez:

Insurance has many factors. Zip code is a big factor same as your credit score

Water is 50-100/unit

Sewer is more expensive and that's a variable depending on the time of the year. $80-120/month


" $80-$120/month" for water... Is that per unit? 

Prior to purchasing a property, how can you determine if it's legal to short term rent it?