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All Forum Posts by: Trent Chance

Trent Chance has started 3 posts and replied 89 times.

All,

We are considering selling our triplex in Clarksville, TN.  I hate to give away free money with my 2.75% interest rate but I need cash.  The units rent from $1500 to $1650.  3 Beds and 2.5 Baths per unit.

Asking $725k.

Originally posted by @Mark Fletcher:

Has anyone done a cost segregation on a rental property since the 100% bonus depreciation became allowable in 2018? If so, what percentage of the purchase price were you able to depreciate in year 1? How much did the cost segregation study cost?

 Didn't mean to highjack your thread Mark - sorry!

Originally posted by @Roberta Eastman:

You can also look for Mark Kohlers you tube video on cost segregation.  The ins & outs of cost segregation was eye opening.  Then confirm with your own qualified real estate CPA. 

Hope that helps, 

Roberta 

I will check that out Roberta - really appreciate the response!

Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Trent Chance also be aware you are accelerating something you would get in the future. In other words, you are decreasing tax liability today and increasing it in the future. You are also subject to recapture if you sell. To avoid this you can exchange the property, but you are then transferring your "used depreciation". That means there is also less available depreciation in the new property. Just be aware the taxes pile up over time. Your passive loss could quickly turn into a profit and even require you to make quarterly tax payments to the IRS. I am not saying you shouldn't do it, just plan out into the future and understand the long term strategy. There is no free ride, even in real estate.

Great information Joe.  In the past we just had 1 or 2 doors and continued visiting HR Block.  Suddenly we have 30 doors and soon more.. figured I better get serious about tax law.  Appreciate the response. 

Originally posted by @Basit Siddiqi:

@Trent Chance

If you are involved in real estate and trying to claim real estate professional status - you likely want to work with a professional who can guide you.

There is extensive record keeping requirements when claiming real estate professional status.
People would be surprised what hours count and what hours don't count.

Regarding your tax situation - you may be able to decrease your taxable income by 100% of whatever the real estate losses are(would be helped through a cost seg).
The tax savings depend on what federal and state tax rates you are in now.

Thank you Basit, I definitely will. 

Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

@Trent Chance

You need to speak with your CPA, I don’t know how it will affect YOUR tax situation. If I bought a 450k triplex in KC I would assume ~90k in losses. I don’t know the land value where your investment is and I can’t give tax or legal advice. You’ll be well-served to work with a professional to get that!

Thanks for the explanation and..

Ha!  That's definitely the plan but I haven't gotten there yet.  Still looking for a CPA who won't cost me more than I'm going to save while specializing in real estate.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around an example.

Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

@Mark Fletcher

My rule of thumb is that 20% is on the 5 year amortization schedule and can be taken as bonus deprecation. For small props there are algorithm based studies that are less expensive that engineered studies. Depends on how large the prop is. But 20% is a decent rule of thumb, great to get more.

Would either of you care to dumb this down for me?  I'm attempting this for the first time this year.

I just bought a new triplex for $450k, my wife manages all of our properties and will qualify for real estate professional status and we're interested in accelerating depreciation.  How would this all affect my taxable income?

Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Diane Savoian

I look for a score of at least 600. It's more important to understand what makes up the score. Late payments, why they are late and mostly historical. People are renting for a reason, no down payment, poor credit score, etc. You want a long term tenant anyway. I look at past evictions, job history, income, debt, and DTI as well (45%).

Hey Kenneth - my wife and I were just discussing DTI recently. How do you get an accurate look at an applicant's DTI? Our background check doesn't seem to really yield enough information to know.

April and May are doing well for my 1 SFR and 23 or so occupied units in our MHP.

@Jay Hinrichs I just closed on a turnaround MHP a week ago. We're at about 33% depending on the accuracy of the previous owners data. It's a turnaround park and I think we're being tested :)