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All Forum Posts by: Trent Barga

Trent Barga has started 9 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Questions about buying RE with all cash

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Why are you looking for an investor buying all cash? That is likely the least sophisticated investor you will meet. 


 There is no one better strategy it all depends on your comfortable level of risk and how you want to go about it. I bought a few properties all cash because inflation was taking off and there were very few deals to grab. I let my money sit in there instead of the bank, eventually got a home equity line and recycle the money as deals go up.

Also, if you have a high earning job and your self employed it is easier and less time consuming to go cash in. Pull out 70-80% and go from there. My personal strategy has me only at 47% leverage currently which I love. If there is a market downturn I'm relatively safe and can always pull money out if needed. I produce a good amount of cash flow that allows me to buy 2 properties a year off of my cashflow and I would never have to touch my personal income if I don't want to.

To say one strategy is better than another is naive. It depends at that persons goal, risk tolerance, and timeframe.

Post: STR in areas like Anna Maria Island (FL), etc with Higher price points

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Trent Barga, so what is your exposure if it doesn't cash flow? Can you absorb the losses?

This sounds like something you would use yourself regularly so you have to balance the family time with the profit margin.

1.2m is a big nut. How big a house are we talking about? Is it beachfront?


 Not large 1500-2200 sqft, a block or two from the beach.

Post: STR in areas like Anna Maria Island (FL), etc with Higher price points

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Trent Barga, so what is your exposure if it doesn't cash flow? Can you absorb the losses?

This sounds like something you would use yourself regularly so you have to balance the family time with the profit margin.

1.2m is a big nut. How big a house are we talking about? Is it beachfront?


 We'd be okay if it doesn't cashflow, however with current economy and such I'm trying to be more conservative with my "bets". Also, I'm not big on selling cash flow assets for non-cashflowing (not that rich ha). If it would cover itself I'd be able to go from $400k in assets to $1million+ with way better appreciation, Ohio isn't exactly bringing in the people like Florida, Texas, etc. Home run for me would be a property that could make me 3-5k per month on average. 

Correct we would definitely use it personally but not more than 1-2x per year. Homes are not getting cheaper especially landlock and just a few blocks from the beach.

Post: STR in areas like Anna Maria Island (FL), etc with Higher price points

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Kerry Baird:

@Trent Barga

I like watching STR Unfiltered with Bill Faeth. He buys big houses, one row back from the ocean, as well as cabins in drive in destinations. His YT videos show what he does to stand out, and to drive his income.


 Hey thanks Kerry I'll start watching those!

Post: STR in areas like Anna Maria Island (FL), etc with Higher price points

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:

I would run the numbers and analyze the property just like normal using Airdna projections. Then I would do some investigating on what the nightly rate is of other area properties that are higher end, and adjust my projections accordingly. Regardless of where the property falls in price, every property needs to be analyzed to make sure the numbers work and the COC return is worthwhile. If you would like some help analyzing a property, feel free to reach out!


 Hey Sarah thanks I might just do that!

Post: STR in areas like Anna Maria Island (FL), etc with Higher price points

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15

Considering getting into STR in the area we vacation at yearly. One of the things I'm running into when running numbers is the purchase price vs. weekly rental rates. We would want to purchase a home so that would put us between 1.2 to 1.5 million. Using different str formulas and considering the extra taxes and fees for running a STR in those areas it looks like break even. Not looking to make 100k/year but would be selling 2 rentals (1031) to make purchase so perfect world would like to cover my $30k/year I currently make on the long term rentals.

Airdna showed $5500 avg weekly rental and $340/night. Ones I've considered and with the upgrades we would do I think we would be in the $6k weekly and 380-400/night range.

Would love to get opinions and thoughts from others who purchase in the higher price points and how they run numbers or make it work. Or if you have a youtube channel you could refer me to that would be great. The ones I've followed aren't doing the "higher" price point areas.

Post: Bonus Depreciation: Tax value or Purchase Price

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Greg Scott:

The value of the land + improvements that you have on your balance sheet should equal your purchase price.   Your depreciation expense will be a function of the value of the improvements and the method you use for calculating depreciation (e.g straight line vs accelerated).

As long as you have good justification for how you separate land + improvements, you are fine.  You do not have to use the tax assessment. If you live in Honolulu the value of the land would be a much higher percentage than in Ohio (where it appears you are from).  For our properties in Michigan and Indiana, we typically use around 15% of total purchase price allocated to land and the rest to improvements.


 Thanks Scott. Yeah unfortunately Ohio's land value isn't going anywhere up ha.

Post: Bonus Depreciation: Tax value or Purchase Price

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Basit Siddiqi:

Depreciable basis will be based on what you paid for the property.


 Thanks!

Post: Bonus Depreciation: Tax value or Purchase Price

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Natalie Kolodij:
Quote from @Trent Barga:

Hoping one of you great people can clarify something for me. Looking at bonus depreciation and wondering if it is based on the county assessed value or purchase price?

We purchased a commercial building for $420k and the county has the improvements at $115k. I my mind doing a bonus depreciation wouldn't make sense if it is only on the $115k value. We have 6 other single family homes and have 2 high income earners so trying to bring our taxes down as much as possible.

Thanks!

"Doinga  bonus depreciation" doesn't really make sense- I'm guessing you mean doing a cost segregation...to separate out components that qualify for bonus depreciation. 

Also- if you are both high income earners.....your passive losses from rental properties will not reduce your taxable income. 

If you apid $420k your depreciable basis won't be $115k. You need to divide that $115/ the total value of the property per the assessor. Then whatever that % is is what you'll apply to the $420k to get your depreciable basis. 

You may want to work with a good tax strategist. 

 Thanks Natalie - I work in real estate as an agent and have 6 properties already so I already qualify for that tax break - I'll have to confirm with out accountant. We just switched Accounts/CPAs who specialize with businesses owners/investors (wife and I have mulitple businesses).

Thanks!

Post: Bonus Depreciation: Tax value or Purchase Price

Trent Barga
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Ashish Acharya:
Quote from @Trent Barga:

Hoping one of you great people can clarify something for me. Looking at bonus depreciation and wondering if it is based on the county assessed value or purchase price?

We purchased a commercial building for $420k and the county has the improvements at $115k. I my mind doing a bonus depreciation wouldn't make sense if it is only on the $115k value. We have 6 other single family homes and have 2 high income earners so trying to bring our taxes down as much as possible.

Thanks!


 Your depreciation is based on your purchase price. Not the tax value. 


 Hey great thanks!