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All Forum Posts by: Trace P.

Trace P. has started 20 posts and replied 57 times.

Hi everyone! My partner and I have ~20 doors in OH, and we are interested to expand our portfolio to Fort Wayne IN. We do long-term rentals and practice BRRRR on every deal. We like how Fort Wayne is growing, yet still provides good BRRRR opportunities. Looking to connect with any investors, realtors, property managers, contractors etc from Fort Wayne :) Feel free to comment or DM! Thank you!

Post: Section 8 Fort Wayne, IN

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Tuan Tran don't fall for all the hype about S8 by so called online "gurus"!

While they mostly aren't lying, they leave out a lot of reality.

Why would a government funded program like S8 pay MORE than market rents?

They rarely do. What the gurus don't tell you is that they are comparing market rents to the GROSS amount of S8 rent on a voucher which INCLUDES LANDORD PAID UTILITIES!

You take out those utilities from the S8 voucher rent and the resulting NET rent is often BELOW market rents.

Ask more questions to protect yourself from being taken advantage of.


 Hi Michael, I'm not sure about IN, but where I invest in OH, it varies by neighborhood. There are some zip codes where you can indeed get above market rent with S8 (even after deducting utility allowance), but some where they are lower. S8 can change their limits any time though so that's some instability there.

I do have several S8 rentals, while they are generally performing well, there is more paperwork involved in the leasing and the strict inspections can be quite a pain. 

I am very interested to start investing in Fort Wayne too, would love to connect with investors / realtors / property managers / contractors / any one in Fort Wayne!  :)

Hi Rebecca and everybody! Loved reading the welcoming replies throughout this thread. My partner and I have been investing in OH for about 5 years now, we are cashflow investors and have over 20 doors consisting of SFH and duplexes in OH. We have been studying Buffalo's market and it looks really promising.

As many of you pointed out, having a reliable team is the most important thing. Being out of state, I hope to get connected with good realtors / property managers / contractors / everything in Buffalo too. Would be super appreciative if you could drop me a DM if you have recommendations! Thank you!

Glad to share my experience in OH too if anyone is interested. 

Rebecca, I'm in this with you! 

Post: Buffalo New York Mutifamily

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Timothy Smith:

Hi Pravit. You are in the right place to discuss this. I also saw your post on one of the local Buffalo facebook forums, and will caution you that you are going to get a WIDE variety of feedback from a WIDE variety of investors -- especially on that group! 

I suggest you "dial in" what you are asking. You are casting a very wide net without providing what your prioritized criteria might be. Are you looking for cash flow? Appreciation? Ease of management? Tolerance for value-add? Speed of building a portfolio (Cash-on-Cash return is a factor here)? I think your questions are a bit to general and you are going to get even more general responses. However, I'll take a stab here.

What town should be easier to manage? This completely depends on what you are looking for. Cheap houses in lower class neighborhoods will get you cash flow with a lot of headache. Class A properties are going to cost you more, have lower cash flow, yet be more attractive to a higher quality tenant base. They generally will offer greater appreciation, as well. 

Management. I also self-manage my portfolio, but I also live here and have the time/knowledge/resources to do so. Property management can be great if you are willing to give up a percentage of your gross rents to not deal with headaches, but it's not like you can just ignore your asset. You will still have to make decisions, and ultimately, you are entrusting someone else with your asset. It works great for many people -- not me -- but it might be your best option considering your distance. 

If you are going to self-manage, you need a great TEAM. You need at least one handyman on speed dial (preferably more), a good contractor for the bigger things, roofer, plumber, electrician, cleaner, etc etc. Preferably 3 deep in each of those categories. Of course, you don't need to do that before investing, but you need to be building that list. You also need a leasing agent, unless you are going to advertise and screen tenants yourself. In this case, get familiar with NYS landlord/tenant law or find someone who is. 

You mentioned the UB neighborhoods. Keep in mind that this comes with high turnover, and (often) students who will beat the hell out of the property! Not all of them, but eventually, they will! This could be very difficult if you are going to self-manage, as you will be turning units every year and dealing with a lot of repairs. My business partner does a lot of work for UB property owners and shares some pretty rough stories with me. It's just not a subclass I want to be involved in, but perhaps you can make it work for you! 

My closing advice is that you connect with a local agent or mentor who also invests in the neighborhoods you are considering. Be wary of the facebook groups as most folks will have a "pitch" or just see the possibility of a transaction. Find someone who can help you dial down on what YOU want as an asset, and has experience with that kind of property. Buffalo changes very quickly block to block (not just ZIP by ZIP) and it is crucial that you understand this prior to writing any checks. The same street with the difference of a hundred house numbers can look drastically different.

I hope this helps, rather than be discouraging. I would spend time building your list of WHO (agent, mentor, contractor/handyman), then WHAT (house type, tenant base, work needed), then WHERE (location). Happy to connect via messages if you'd like to dive deeper.

Tim


Good words Timothy! I have ~20 doors in OH that I self manage (there are some awesome softwares out there now for self management) and am looking to start investing in Buffalo too. But I noted that places like North Tonawanda as @Pravit Jarriyapurttipong mentioned are actually outside of Erie County, it's in Niagara County, which follows the stricter landlord laws as New York State... https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/changes-in-nys-rent-la...

Would you recommend sticking to Erie County boundaries for this purpose? Thank you!



Quote from @Matthew Irish-Jones:

Buffalo is a good market to invest long term if you get a good property, on a good street, in good condition.  

If you weight your analysis by:  1. Location 2. Asset Condition 3. Returns you can do just fine.  If you get greedy and put #3 in front of #1 or #2 you can get burned like any other market. 


In all markets in fact, this applies. 

I currently invest in OH but am interested in looking into Buffalo too. Been seeing awesome numbers especially for duplexes. However I did note that houses are mostly really old, e.g. 100 years or older... any idea if this poses challenges in things like lead paint presence, outdated wiring, rusty plumbing, etc., or have many of the homes already been updated?  

Post: Non-U.S. person wishing to invest in U.S. real estate.

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34

Hi! My partner and I are foreigners, living in Singapore, but we've acquired 11 rental properties in the US. We opened a US LLC to own our properties. Lending wise, there are several lenders who do lend to foreigners based on DSCR loans. Feel free to DM if you would like to link up!

Post: Loans for out of country investors

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34

Hi all! I am from Singapore and together with my partner we have acquired 11 rentals in the US remotely. I have lenders for foreigners too, feel free to DM me to link up! :) 

Post: Grading to divert water from house

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Scott Mac:

If it were mine, I'd consider handling that degraded porch edge. plus adding a handrail or two.

If it were mine, and I had to do this, I'd cost out concrete to the foundation with caulk in the joints, because if you zero the concrete to the foundation and it moves--ouch, and if you don't caulk its endless ants and weeds in there. It also gives the pest control a hard surface at the foundation especially important with all those garbage cans (roaches) right up alongside the house.

Here a mockup for you, one with grey foundation and cleaned rocks, and the other white and rocks uncleaned.

That's slip resistant broom finished concrete with smooth edges.

Good Luck!


 WOW!! You did that illustration so beautifully that I thought it was another house! Thank you so much, that actually is a good idea!!! Will definitely explore that!!

Post: How much to reinforce bowing/cracked brick walls?

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34

Thank you @Mike Hasson!! Yeah there are no trees around the property, so I doubt there are tree roots. But good point to consider! 

Post: Grading to divert water from house

Trace P.Posted
  • Investor
  • OH
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 34

Thank you for the feedback @Matthew Paul and @Patricia Steiner. Yes I actually am factoring $5K to do regrading into my capital investment on this.