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All Forum Posts by: Michael Totman

Michael Totman has started 5 posts and replied 129 times.

Post: Our latest buy and hold success with pics and numbers

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

I wanted to share this recent success story with everyone. For some history my brother Nick and I have been partnering on buy and holds since 2009. With this latest story, by far our best and (potentially) most profitable deal to date, we have 12 apartments spread through 5 properties. Yes, we are small time but growing.

I first spotted this deal on the MLS in April or May 2015 but the asking price was comically too high, around $360,000 I believe. I watched it, saw no movement, so in June 2015 I decided to make what I thought was a fair offer of $200,000.

It’s a 3 unit building with 3 fairly identical 3 bedroom units on top of each other located near the center of town in a rural area south of Boston with commuter train access to the city.

My offer was countered in the low 300’s to which I countered again at $225,000. It would be an ok deal in the high 200’s or low 300’s, but I don’t want just an ok deal. They countered back at $280,000 but I held firm at $225,000 knowing the work it needed. They said no.

Two and a half months later my agent got a call from the seller stating that if my $225k offer was still good they would accept. Maybe the pro’s would say I should have countered with a lower number, but we did accept this and away we went.

We had just finished a cash out refi on two other properties so we had cash in the bank for the 25% down payment and repairs.

We closed this purchase at the end of October 2015.

Two of the units came occupied; one a section 8 elderly woman who had lived there for 15 years with no rent increase and the other a non-subsidized couple of roommates. Neither of those units were paying market rent but they were covering the mortgage and other costs of owning the building. We decided to leave them be while we focused on the problems on the first floor.

The work: We hire out a lot of the major work but still do some work ourselves, including demo and kitchens so we got started on that right away.

The first problem was that somewhere in history someone put an illegal 4th apartment in the first floor by closing off the passage from the kitchen to dining room, installing a 2nd kitchen in the old dining room and the tiniest full bath in the front coat closet. Neither first floor unit had a 2nd egress. We knew this needed to be fixed going in.

What we didn’t know going in was that the previous owner was 1 week away from a court date with the town over all the board of health violations related to the illegal apartment. I quickly became best friends with the health inspector when she unexpectedly showed up one day during demo.

Nick was doing some demo with the contractor when he called me to say that a “very nice lady” from the health department stopped by and gave him a list of things that needed to be taken care of immediately. Luckily most of the items were already in our reno plan.

We removed the illegal kitchen and turned the full bath into a half, installed new kitchen cabinets, counters, and appliances along with new bath vanities, tub, and toilets. The original 100 year old wood floors were refinished beautifully and vinyl flooring was installed where we couldn’t salvage the wood. We painted, installed new light fixtures, and replaced the old painted outlets and switches with new white ones for $.50 - $1 each.

We hired plumbers and electricians to go through the apartment and basement to clean up the 100 year old rats nest of wires and leaking plumbing lines which were contributing to sky high water bills. Our contractor installed new ceilings and did other work. We turned one bedroom entry that required squeezing past the kitchen stove into a closet for that room that framed into the kitchen while opening up the original entry off the dining room that had been closed off in the 70’s (likely when the illegal apartment came online) with that awesome wood paneling everyone hates to paint. This gave us a better kitchen layout and a more natural space to put the fridge and extra cabinets.

Outside we installed two new driveways and a walkway that improved the water drainage and added safety to the front porch access. We removed a large tree that towered over the roof causing a mess with falling debris on the roof and blocked all sun which left too much moisture.

This work cost about $25k, took a little over two months, including two major holidays, and we had it rented at $1,400 by the end of January 2016. Gross rents at this point were $3,270.

We were also successful with a tax abatement based on the incorrect data on the assessor’s card which caused the town to value this as a 5 unit property despite their knowledge of the illegal apartments. Gotta love government efficiencies. This was around $1,300 returned to us. I’ve just filed the 2nd abatement for this coming year and expect an assessed value about $50k less than last year based on the purchase price.

February 2016 was a particularly windy and stormy month for this area and one day we learned just how bad. At 5am I got a call from the 3rd floor tenant saying that the fire department was there and it was raining inside the apartment. The storm had torn up the roof and soaked two rooms plus the common hallway. Awesome.

A new roof was in the long term rehab plan, but not at this time. This was a new experience for us but needless to say we got a new roof and a partially renovated 3rd floor apartment for simply the cost of the insurance deductible. Not a bad deal.

Next up was the 2nd floor subsidized tenant who was paying rent at her original lease price from 15 years ago. I was able to get an increase from the housing authority but not to market rents. If you’re familiar with the Section 8 program you’ll understand what it means that this tenant’s original three bedroom voucher was slashed to a two bedroom voucher at some point and the previous owner didn’t care. So I’m getting subsidized two bedroom rent in this three bedroom unit which isn’t ideal, but it also means we don’t need to drop a large rehab in there right now.

Fast forward to August 2016 and we start thinking about the coming one year anniversary. We decided that the 3rd floor needs to start paying closer to market rent so we offer them a compromise. We decided to increase their rent half of what a true market increase would be, offered to fix a few small things, and let them stay. We gave 45 days notice. They did not take us up on the offer and decided to move out.

Unlike the past few weeks since the US election it was a peaceful transition.

We also started the process to cash out refi this place in August. That finally closed after an appraisal hiccup in late October 2016.

We started the 3rd floor reno on October 1 with the same plan as the first floor aside from two things: there was no illegal apartment to dismantle so that was easy, but the heating system was an ancient gas fired space heater sitting in the dining room.

Instead of installing a HE system in the basement and running new baseboard lines up three flights we decided to go with a four zone mini split ductless system. This thing is sweet! It will heat efficiently down to an outside temp of -15 degrees and lets us market this unit as having central a/c! This was expensive, but compared to the work that would have to be done to run baseboards upstairs we determined that the slightly higher cost was worth it.

We busted it during this reno and finished in 37 days, holding the open house on November 6. We would have been done sooner but our contractor who we trust more than anyone had already planned a weeklong vacation during the month. We could have hired someone else, but for one week we did not want to take that gamble on an unknown.

We found a qualified tenant on November 8, but due to paperwork issues with the housing authority we were not able to get them moved in until December 1. As of today they are moving in and we have a contract with Section 8 for a rent of $1,495 in this unit.

So, the numbers:

Purchase: $225,000 with 25% down
First floor and building reno: $25,000
Tax abatement year 1: $1,300
New roof and partial 3rd floor reno: $2,500 deductible
Third floor reno: $28,000
Cash out refi: $60,000 back to us based on appraised value of $330,000 prior to 3rd floor reno. Market comps today could allow me to argue a value closer to $360,000 or more if I were to sell.

Gross monthly rent today: $4,025. I expect this to be $4,100 come February 1, 2017 when the first floor contract renews. There is about $400/month rent left on the table due to the 2nd floor voucher situation, but that will come in time and would require another $20+k reno.

Work on this building is not done. There are three other HVAC systems (two for the first floor from the illegal apartment) that are old and will likely go soon along with some older hot water heaters. We battled a hoarding and bed bug situation on the second floor this summer, and while you never know what to expect with tenants that seems to go double for those in the Section 8 program for some reason…

Regardless we love this property and feel it will be a huge chip in our portfolio for years to come! Here are some before and after photos:

Post: Tenant's Son With Non-Violent Felonies Coming To Visit

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

Correct me if I'm wrong, but tenants should be free to have guests as they please. Their guests should be subject to the same rules of your lease and this should be written in the lease. The trick is making sure the "guest" doesn't turn into a "guest every day, but he doesn't live here, really, I promise, he just sleeps over on weekends. and weeknights. and holidays."  I was once able to prove a tenants "guest" was really the live in boyfriend when he started receiving mail at the house, but it's generally tough to prove.  I was then able to notify section 8, she lost her voucher for allowing unauthorized people to live with her on their dime, and I was able to evict for non payment having only lost 3 months rent. The "guest" caused all sorts of problems, fought with his baby momma all the time which disturbed other tenants etc.  I was told at the time that I was lucky to get her out after "only 3 months" in this very tenant friendly state.

Post: Is it legal to market rental for a property under contract?

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

If this is such a great deal that you can simply accept the deed and keys from the seller in the morning and place a tenant in there after lunch I would be surprised. Is there nothing you want to do to the property to improve its value and increase the rent? If you're really closing in 10 days and the property is immaculate and ready to go at the highest quality it can be then go for it. Get the tenant lined up, it will probably take at least a week to get them screened, update your lease, get it signed, etc. Tell them the move in date is an hour after you close and go for it. If it's such a good deal like this could I ask how it go to the market in the first place?  Or did you pay too much for it?

Post: real estate agents?

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

I'd hire my own subs but would get quotes from hers just to test them out. If she has a pipeline to these off market deals and wants to help you buy, why not? I'm wondering when she will ask you for her finders fee though...This could just be a niche she markets herself as filling. It's worth investigating at least. 

Post: Tenant breaking lease

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

Tenants will take as much as you give them, and I agree this is a stall tactic. As others stated start the eviction now and have a conversation that it is simply your policy to do so but you will work with her to make it efficient for everyone.

Now you know how to update your lease for the next tenant: include the policy that you will follow if they become more than 1 month late and/or break the lease early.  Whenever my tenants want to leave early I simply refer them to page #12 and tell them we will follow that policy starting today until the unit is re-rented.

Whether you want a full year lease or monthly agreement it's true that tenants will do what they want regardless. What you want is a written and signed contract that protects you in these situations.  It's amazing how contracts mean nothing to them...

You may be allowed to continue charging them rent through the expiration date whether they live there or not as long as you make reasonable efforts to find a new tenant.  They likely won't pay it, but you can use it as a negotiating point that you won't charge it if they leave tomorrow, pay x% of back rent, etc.  Otherwise those charges will go in the eviction or small claims file too.

Assuming you followed the law in your state tell them right where they can go for their crap...

Post: Things to Include in you Lease

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

I include a list of rules and a list of charges that could affect the security deposit with $ amounts if they cause any.

One rule I have is: the basement is not living space, it is for storage only. The basement is not a recreational area, any damage caused to the property mechanical operating systems (plumbing, heat, electric) caused by using the basement as a recreational area will be the financial responsiblity of the tenant. 

That rule came from experience where I had some "younger professionals" setup a "beer pong table" right next to the other apartments boiler.  After 1 late night weekend call for no heat from the other tenant I enacted this rule...

For my list of charges I include things like Replace exterior door: $400, replace interior door: $200, fix window: contractor cost etc. 

Your lease will become a living document based on your experience.

Post: My tenant has A horrible neighbors

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

"...but then Jonie said....and I was like....and when Angela did this she was like....and I was like....Marcia Marcia Marcia....." Stephen go talk to the Dbag and politely but firmly tell him you don't appreciate the harassment of your tenants.  If you were parked blocking him in then that's your bad, now you know you and your contractors need to be careful around this guy. 

I had a neighbor who didn't like that the high school kids in my unit had people over every day. He set up a "camera" in his 2nd story window pointing at their house to intimidate the tenants who then complained to me. After multiple complaints I decided to go talk to him one day. After 5 minutes of him acting like a tough guy, dropping names of so called State Police friends who threatened to come make sure these kids weren't dealing drugs (they were not), and threatening to sue me for having such "trouble" in my unit I asked him to show me the footage of what he claimed was illegal goings on.  He didn't want to, and ultimately I found out this "camera" was a block of wood painted black with a lens glued to the front intended simply to intimidate the young girls across the street. 

Bullies like to be in control, but as soon as they are confronted they tend to calm down. Go talk to him, explain your tenants are not happy with him, explain that you aren't comfortable with his behavior, and ask him to stop. Explain that if you two can't work it out you'll take additional steps within the law, but I'm sure he'll calm down if you can talk to him like an adult, show him some respect, and don't let him think you're just some kid who screwed him out of this deal. 

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

Post: My tenant has A horrible neighbors

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

First, don't go over there acting or looking like a thug, and be respectful. Tell him you understand there is a disagreement with one of your tenants and you'd like to help solve it. Unless it's much worse than you let on here and the place is in the ghetto you are blowing this out of proportion. Perhaps you've used violence to solve problems before, but you're an adult now so act like it. If he still acts like a fool speak with the police and ask for a more frequent drive by to help control the peace, ask for their advice, and show you are not looking for a fight. The fact you think he will say you threatened him and there is a chance the cops will believe him feels like high school drama between two bullies. You own a business, act like it.

Post: My tenant has A horrible neighbors

Michael TotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Berlin, MA
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 95

Afraid he will call you names? Are you 14? Sometimes in this business you need to do the dirty work. Cops may be needed, but if you resort to that first without attempting to talk to this guy as adults I can imagine he may get more nasty before he gets nice. I can see the cops show up and then this guy will magically get smart and figure out all the things he can do to piss you off while staying legal. Make sure you're up for that if you bring the enforcer in at the start.