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All Forum Posts by: Tori Trent

Tori Trent has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Bill's point is dead on for tax purposes.  If it was bought as a rental and you've never lived there, with a 3% interest rate and close to cash flowing with a PM, I'd hold it.  Rents go up over time and you are unlikely to get interest rates that good for a long time.

with the current interest rates, it would be a lot harder to find a place that cash flows and long distance rentals are not always good.


We have lived there for over 2 years before it was a rental. It's only been a rental for about 5 months.  Would you still recommend keeping it or would it be better to sell?

Quote from @Bill B.:

If you lived there 24 months before making it an entail I’d sell and take the $100k tax free. It will take that property years just to make the $20k in taxes that you’ll owe if you keep it. 

If you lived in it less than 24 months go ahead and keep it. You will not retire or grow rich off cash flow, it will be the appreciation and eventually the loan payoff.  Pretend you magically raised rents $100 (like next year.). Is it suddenly a great rental instead of a bad one? No, it’s  exactly the same rental just one year from now. 


 We have lived there for at least 24 months. If we were to sell, where would you reinvest the $100k? We are thinking of doing a house hack in SLC but we can do that without the $100K. 

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Daniel McDonald:

You're definitely thinking about it the right way! I respect that you are doing it with kids, too many people use that as an excuse. I am house hacking in an expensive area myself, just north of Boston. Obviously I'm not super familiar with all the laws and regulations in your area but what I love about house hacking is it can be as creative as you want it to be. 


Could you find a spot with an ADU? Or the potential?

I know someone who rents an RV in their backyard. You could also create storage spaces, like a garage or basement and rent it out on neighbor.com. Could you do a large multifamily? We bought our second one to grow into, it has 4 beds in our unit. We rent the bottom unit which is a 2/1. 


 Thanks, Daniel! We actually used neighbor at our first home for our RV parking and loved it!

With a larger multifamily, it would be pretty expensive in our area but it may be a good idea. What have you liked about owning one with multiple units? I assume it's a triplex?

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @William Simpson:

Great ideas, i've stayed in some cute campers on air bnb in some expensive markets. In my expensive market I've seen folks get creative by renting gardening space, Ie raised beds,some tools. They tend to target apartments in walking distance of their single family home via flyers and craigslist.


Targeting apartments is a strategy that I haven't thought of before. Are these apartments long-term housing looking for a space to rent out a garden or potching their tenants for long-term rentals? I guess what is this strategy "selling" these apartment complexes on?

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
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  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Mekkel Blanchard:

@Tori TrentThanks! and no relationships yet with hospitals/agencies but I would like to. We have have been lucky to get all our business on furnished finder, Nurse facebook groups, and also listing on airbnb for 30 day+ stays for the one we do not owner occupy. And yes, I now target 1 bed and studios specifically for mid-term rentals. Once you get in to 2 bed and 3 bed units you can likely get market rents depending on location or you will have to rent each room out and most of the time nurses want there own private space with out sharing bathroom/kitchen but Ive heard of people having success with it!


That makes total sense. Is there an exit strategy for these small units? I'm very interested in MTR but I want to have a way to adapt if the market gets saturated in my area. STR are becoming more restricted so I can see many competitors entering the market for MTRs.

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Jake Andronico:

@Tori Trent

I like the way you think! Daylight basements can be a great option. 

In Reno, NV we have newbuilds that're called "Next Gen" that have a separate in-law suite (w/ out a stove to adhere to SF zoning). 

This is an awesome turn key option. Curious if they're in your area as well. 


 Thanks for the idea, Jake! I'm surprised that you can rent out a unit without a stove. 

I'm not sure if they have them in my area but they would most likely be more money than we'd want to spend. New construction here is pretty pricey but we can look at sub cities and that may be a possibility. 

Have you seen a better return on new construction vs. renovated properties? Whether it's appreciation or cash flow?

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Mekkel Blanchard:

@Tori Trent nope no issues running it for the last 3 years and have been booked! at most 3 weeks vacancy. Here are links to two of them we run in our area. First one is the primary residence and the other is another building (5 units) Im converting to all mid term rentals.

https://www.furnishedfinder.com/property/289744_1

https://www.furnishedfinder.com/property/558732_1


 Mekkel, you're listings look very strategic! I like how you set up expectations upfront about your kids to set expectations for your guests. We'll need to do that as well. Do you have relationships with the hospitals to keep your booking rate high? Or do you get all your business through furnish finder?

Also, it seems like you're intentional about the size of unit you are using for your MTRs. Do you find the return is better with the studio size? 

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Brian Bohrer:

Hey @Tori Trent,

It sounds like you have a great plan in mind! House hacking and buying a new primary residence every year are great strategies to ensure you are consistently growing and profiting from every purchase you make!

I would suggest that you also consider seeking out homes with assumable loans!  In my opinion, purchasing with an assumable loan is the most powerful strategy available for any primary home buyer in today's market!  The biggest hurdle right now is interest rates, it is extremely difficult to buy in a popular market and actually make a profit out of the gate.  

BUT!! When you buy with an assumable loan (all FHA, VA and USDA loans are assumable) you will buy with 2%-5% interest rate that will give you a much better chance to profit when it becomes a rental once you move to the next one! We bought a $400,000 home with a 3.08% rate and are paying $2,157 including escrow compared to a $2,950 payment if I took out a new loan at 7%! Which payment do you think would be easier to cover with rent? AND this doesn't include the increased principle paydown I also have with a loan that has already amortized for 2 years!

I have a blog post that dives into the powerful savings in lower mortgage payment and increased debt paydown when you buy with an assumable loan vs a new loan at today's rates!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/922/topics/1175338-maxi...

If you ever have any questions about how this works, feel free to reach out and I would be happy to share my experience and knowledge!  I wish you the best on your journey!  Take Care :)

Thanks, Brian, we have thought of getting an assumable mortgage deal and believe it's a great option. 

Follow-up question:
how do you find deals with this option? Do you reach out to the seller to see if they'd be willing to or do you find these deals in other ways?

We've also thought of "subject to" or "seller financing" options but are not sure how to go about looking for these opportunities. 

How do you find them?

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Mekkel Blanchard:

House Hacking is the way to go! Great to see someone else looking to do it with a family. I also have 3 kids and during my search I looked for a-lot of the opportunities in properties that others have mentioned above. We found a single family with a finished garage that had an in-law suite above the garage with its own private entrance and a kitchenette. We bought in 2020 and updated the kitchen and added a bathroom and now rent the in-law suite to traveling nurses! Keep searching and you are sure to score a deal, good luck!

I'd love to try the mid term rental strategy with the property we find. Have you had any feedback about having a kitchenette vs a full kitchen or do traveling nurses not mind?

Post: What are house hacking strategies that others overlook in an expensive area?

Tori TrentPosted
  • Investor
  • Salt Lake, UT
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 9

My husband and I want to buy our first house hack in an expensive area, Salt Lake. We have 3 kids so we need a private space with at least 3 bedrooms but we aren't afraid of getting creative and converting other spaces with untapped potential. I'd love your advice on how you look at the potential in spaces and how you've converted a home into 2 or more units. 

What untapped features in homes do you look for when looking at properties to house hack?

How have you creatively house-hacked? (large garage to convert into a unit, converted a shed, basement that you've subdivided into two units, adding a bedroom, etc.). 

In my area, you can have up to 4 units on the same property for residential areas. We are looking to buy a 5 bedroom+ home that we can convert to 2 or more units where we live in one unit. What features should we look for to accomplish this?

Another thing to consider is that large homes in my area are expensive so we will most likely not have a lot of money after the sale to rehab kitchens, bathrooms, and more from scratch. So we were thinking of buying a property with a finished basement unit to rent out until we can save up for adding another unit. 

What would you do? Thanks a ton!