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All Forum Posts by: Tony Pragosa

Tony Pragosa has started 1 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

Go conventional if you can. FHA MIP is high and nonrefundable.


Drew,

It looks as though if I go the FHA route, while initially I may be able to put less money down, I think I'd end up spending more in the long run through MIP. Thank you.

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Tim Herman:

@Tony Pragosa I'm not a fan of percentages. You need to run budgets to get a better idea. Like @Eric Greenberg said age of the improvements makes a difference in your capex. An example. You determine a new roof will cost you $7500. Life span is 25 years. $7500/25 year life span/12 months in a year=$25 per month. Same roof but now it is 15 years old. Your effective lifespan is now 10 years. $7500/10 years/12 months in a year=$62.50 per month. You have to do the same with all the major components.

You also need to run a repair budget. You have to make some decisions. How often are you going to repaint between tenants. A 5% vacancy is the equivalent of your tenant staying 20 months. An example. Cost to repaint the unit $1500. Deep clean $300. Number of service calls 1.5@$150=$225. $1500+$300+$225=$2025/20 months=$101.25 per month per unit.  Now what if you touch up between units and paint every 5 years. Cost of touchup $300. So you will have 2 touchups and one major plus 3 cleanings and 5 service calls. $1500+$600 touchup+$900 cleanings+$750 service calls=$3750/60 months=$62.50 per month per unit. Better numbers make better decisions.


Tim,

Very much appreciated on the dollar breakdown. I haven't thought to get this granular, but I guess that's one of the many differences that separates a great house hacking investor vs a poor one.

Once I speak to the seller and get a better idea of the recent renovations to the property, I'll have to compile a separate repair & maintenance spreadsheet and run costs. Thank you.

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Eric Greenberg:
Quote from @Tony Pragosa:

The space does look recently rehabbed. Ah, I knew I forgot something. Thank you! What percentage would you use for CapEx - 5%, 10%?

Also, very good points on the fee and snow shoveling (I'll be asking the prospective PM if they include that in their services). Thank you again.

Tony


 Tony,

I would personally fully understand what improvements were done to the property and when as much as possible prior to sale. 

As for CapEX it would matter what type of heat you have, what type (if any) A/C you have, what type of roof you have and the sqftage, what appliances do you provide on top of the normal  fridge/oven (ie dishwasher/microwave/washing machine/dryer/etc)



Understood on the improvements. I'm still in the initial stages, but I'll definitely go in depth with recent repairs and such with the seller.

Gotcha. I think I have to perform an overall deeper dive into CapEx and see how much maintenance/repairs/replacement would be per high dollar appliance. Thank you!

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Bill Schrimpf:

@Tony Pragosa - Looks like your off to a great start!  You display a basic understanding of the numbers and process.  I don't know your market, but if your assumptions about the local area are correct, this house hack is a fine place to start!  

A couple of things to consider:

* keep talking to lenders, find local/regional bank that has a portfolio product. Lenders are HUNGRY right now, so if you have some cash and decent credit, they want you! Remember, they are selling a product. You are not begging for a lifeline. You can probably escape MIP

* Get the right kind of insurance on your rental, it's not standard homeowners.  

*  If you are gone 6 months of the year, consider short-term rental on your side.  

Again, you are off to an amazing start!  Keep talking to lenders!


That's good to hear! From speaking with my realtor and my own research, the assumptions of the local area should be accurate.

Excluding other investments, and emergency savings, I do have an okay cash reserve. I'm not in a rush to purchase a place, and if I waited until mid 2023, I'd be in a great spot. However, with waiting until mid 2023, the hope would be that housing prices further decline. As I'm repeatedly hearing though, do not try to time the market. My credit is also great (>800).

Good to know on the insurance. I'll keep that in mind.

I'm also planning on exploring short term rentals of my unit once I get into a stable spot. Luckily, there are a couple of Airbnb mgmt companies in Philly. I'll end up contacting one of them, if my selected property mgmt company does not take care of it.

Thank you very much on the advice! Very much appreciated!

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Derek Brickley:

You definitely aren’t over analyzing!  These are all things you need to think about.  As mentioned above definitely consider Capital Expenditures as well for when you need a new roof or appliances or any other big purchase that can and will eventually break.

From the mortgage side, unfortunately on conventional mortgages a 2-unit property would require 15% down in most cases even if you plan on living in one of the units. Certain local credit unions might be able to help as they sometimes are more lenient, but otherwise you would probably want to use an FHA loan for the property.

I'm not sure how much capital you currently have, but FHA definitely allows you to get in for low money down. There is an upfront mortgage insurance premium but that will be rolled into your loan amount and then you will have Mortgage Insurance. From a rate perspective, FHA rates are slightly lower than conventional as of today (10/7).


If you put less than 10% down with FHA, then you will have Mortgage Insurance for the life of the loan. If you put more than 10% down with FHA, you can have the Mortgage Insurance taken off in 11 years I believe. Either way chances are you will want to refinance the property before then.


Definitely will include CapEx. Thank you both on that.

I've been speaking with a couple of different lenders, and plan on contacting a handful more to discuss my options and see the minimum required down payment. I actually wasn't aware that the mortgage insurance could be taken off after a certain period of time. From what I've read, it looks as though I would be stuck with it for the duration of the loan; however, I am new to this whole process, so maybe haven't read enough into it. Thank you!

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Quote from @Eric Greenberg:

I dont know where you are buying in Philly but $1500 for a 2/1 sounds realistic. 

The biggest issue I see is no CapEX and a small (5%) towards repairs. Happy to talk in more detail but unless this is a new build (which id still be weary of in Philly) or recently rehabbed Id want to set aside alot more capital for the CapEX/reapairs that come along with our older homes. 

Id also throw in a rental license fee and potential for snow shoveling unless thats on the PM. 


The space does look recently rehabbed. Ah, I knew I forgot something. Thank you! What percentage would you use for CapEx - 5%, 10%?

Also, very good points on the fee and snow shoveling (I'll be asking the prospective PM if they include that in their services). Thank you again.

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Sylvia,

Thank you for replying! I'll check out the calc, along with the income thresholds and other restrictions with the Fannie/Freddie products.

Also, very good point on the FHA. Thanks again

Tony

Post: First House Hack – Deal Advice!

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Hello BiggerPockets community!

I just recently joined, and am new to the real estate investing field. I'm a first time home buyer, and looking to purchase my first multi family unit building. I do have a few questions, and would love any and all advice/critique of the below deal. I'll try to make this post as concise as possible, but please let me know if you need any additional information. Thank you all in advance!

My Situation:

Looking to purchase a duplex in Philadelphia, PA.

I plan on occupying 1 of the units.

Due to my job, I work and live overseas for approximately 6 months per year. My annual expenses are low, and my income is fairly high.

I plan on going the conventional loan route. I also expect to fully pay off the mortgage in 10 years or less.

The Building:

Current purchase price is $365k.

2 beds in each unit.

Both units are fairly updated, so repairs/value add would be minimal.

Projected rents in that area of similar units ~$1500/month.

I will be having property management take care of the rented unit.

What do you all think of the below metrics? Am I missing anything? Are my percentages too low?

Should I opt for an FHA loan instead of a conventional loan?

Am I over-analyzing?

Home Price $365,000
Down Payment % 5%
Down Payment $18,250
Closing Costs $14,600
Down Payment Total $32,850
Mortgage Term (In Years) 30
Loan Amount $346,750
Interest Rate 7.000%


Rent $1,500
Mortgage Payment $2,307
Property Taxes $300
Insurance $100
Property Management (12%/Month) $180
Vacancy (5%/Month) $75
Repairs (5%/Month) $75
Total Monthly Payment $3,037
Total Annual Payment $36,443


Monthly Cash Flow -$1,537
Annual Cash Flow -$18,443


Monthly Cash Flow w/out Mortgage $3,077
Annual Cash Flow w/out Mortgage $36,923