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All Forum Posts by: Tony Ngo

Tony Ngo has started 1 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: I am looking for advice on my soon to be adopted tenants?

Tony NgoPosted
  • San Gabriel Valley, CA
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 9

Hi Chris - double check of what the 20K collection for.  Most of time, we stay away from collection tenants.   May be it can be medical bill collection and they have good reason for it.   If so, you would need good amount of deposit to accept them.  If you place the rent a little below market, you would good a good amount potential tenants from screening.  

Quote from @Chris Mason:
Quote from @Tony Ngo:

Thank you Kyle. Have you hear anything on 2-4 Units with ADU?

The same guideline allows for a single ADU to exist on a 2 or 3 unit property.

Prior to that, any ADU on any multiunit was an automatic disqualifier for any Agency loan. 

So this is pretty huge. :)

Also worth noting that the counting of rental income is only for single family primary homes. 

We also don't just get to mix-n-match the guidelines we like. Another thing to keep in mind is that Fannie guidelines do not automatically apply to Freddie loans, there are scenarios where your loan officer puts you in the "Fannie Mae Only" or "Freddie Mac Only" bucket without even telling you, for example if you have student loans with no required payments (due to COVID forbearance, IBR, or any other reason), Fannie and Freddie treat that very differently. If applicable, you wouldn't get to combine the more generous of the two, you have to stick with the good and bad of one of the two, and the entire set of guidelines (both when it helps, and when it hurts) is what would be applicable. For an example of what that looks like form recent celebrity current events, you don't get to sue in a United States court and cite British laws in the hopes of a win. When your loan officer picks one, Fannie or Freddie, that's the "court of law," the set of rules, that applies. 

Aaaaaaaand another note. A lot of institutions that loan directly to consumers, such a banks, "direct lenders," or credit unions, are "Fannie only" or "Freddie only." There's no such thing as that for mortgage brokers (obviously), but if you do not wish to avail yourself of the opportunities that working with one represents, then you should at least ask if the direct lender, bank, or credit union, in question, is a "Freddie shop" or a "Fannie shop." I do not work at Bank of America and am not authorized to speak for them, but for a prominent "household name" example, based on "BofA said I couldn't get a loan because...." questions I get from folks, I'm 99% certain that BofA is a "Fannie shop," or at the very least their loan officers are only trained on Fannie. I am about 80% sure (as opposed to the 99% I am with BofA) that Wells Fargo does Freddie on the back-end, but only trains for Fannie. So it appears (again, about 80% certain of this) that the WF loan officer who does their own research can offer Freddie stuff (& their underwriters will OK it), but the WF LO who just follows the assigned continued training can only speak intelligently to Fannie. I could use local examples, but big banks are the nationwide "household names." 

Another note, on the future. It's Fannie and Freddie, so they aren't revolutionary institutions. They will make a minor incremental change, observe for a few years, and then adjust. We can all speculate about what the future may hold, but I'm guessing the future changes will be measured in years from now, not months from now. The Agencies usually focus on 3-year sets of data. They want to see how the loans with the new guidelines perform over X full years, and 3 is often X.

Here's the full bulletin from Freddie Mac directly: https://guide.freddiemac.com/a... 


 This is great new for all the investors.  Thank you for the information.

Thank you Kyle. Have you hear anything on 2-4 Units with ADU?

Post: Second Opinion on Leveraging a Rental Property

Tony NgoPosted
  • San Gabriel Valley, CA
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 9

Hi Chris

I think it is possible if you & your wife income could cover it.  As mortgage broker myself, the first thing i would do 

1) calculate your income from 2 payoff rentals compared to expenses (tax,insurance,etc on rental property).

2) calculate PITI (principal,interest,tax,insurance) of your new subject primary property

3) Then evaluate if your income could qualify from #1 & #2 together.

Conventional lending will give you best rate. If you don't qualify this route, you can can look for DSCR and other created lending that wholesale lenders can provide to you. If you haven't speak to any mortgage broker yet, feel free to contact me. I would love help and share my knowledge to you.

Post: Do I need a Mortage Broker ?

Tony NgoPosted
  • San Gabriel Valley, CA
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 9

As this is your first investment, you will likely still qualify for the conventional lending.  I would suggest you explore this option first as this will provide you the better rate.  Call around for the mortgage broker within your state and find someone that you are comfortable to work with.  He or she should able to provide you some idea on qualifying without you provide any personal information to them (as your case would be straight forward.  If you have other rental property, then they may require to see your tax return on rental filing deduction.)  

Remember you are looking to build a good team.  Having a good mortgage broker who can look over your shoulder would help you on your purchase. The timing on meeting the appraisal and loan contingency period is critical on purchase transaction so that you won't put your initial deposit at risk.

Good luck.

Post: Single family hone versus duplex rent

Tony NgoPosted
  • San Gabriel Valley, CA
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 9

Hi James

Look like Bria & Eliott already answer your questions. They are correct. Duplex will likely be lower than SFR as they likely have to share something. If you prepare the property well and more presentable, you may get property rent close to SFR. Is your rental area in LA? If so, I can try to help you find some comp if you like.

Tony