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All Forum Posts by: Tony Corven

Tony Corven has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Quote from @Michael Baum:
Quote from @Tony Corven:
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Tony Corven, I feel that you are experiencing some FOMO on this. Being able to get an owner to hold the property for 5 years at 4% with less than 10% down seems like a great deal.

But...only if it works over time. That HOA is a killer for sure. I would find out about that flood insurance etc and who is providing it.

To me it is right on the line. It could be a loser or it could just just OK.

For me, the risk is too high IMHO. 


 Thank you so much Michael! What would you look for in order to feel more comfortable yourself in this deal? Is there anything else besides the insurance I should ask about?  This might be a dumb question, but what would make it work over time? 

So for the insurance, find out what it covers, what is the coverage limits etc. Who is providing the coverage. Insurance in Florida is a bit of a crap shoot right now. I would be concerned what you need to provide in addition.

So what I mean is that as things go, you might be able to increase the overall occupancy as time goes on.

The first year is always a bit lean as you are just starting. You need to build up some 5 star reviews to get things rolling.

The HOA fees are really high and that is a show stopper for me. I don't trust HOA's at all and there is no telling how that will play out. It could go up another $500 in the year to come. That would really impact your bottom line.

I guess you need to decide how much risk you want to take. This could become a cash sink or it could do just OK. I don't think it will ever be a cash cow.

 Thank you so much Michael! That was very insightful

Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Tony Corven, I feel that you are experiencing some FOMO on this. Being able to get an owner to hold the property for 5 years at 4% with less than 10% down seems like a great deal.

But...only if it works over time. That HOA is a killer for sure. I would find out about that flood insurance etc and who is providing it.

To me it is right on the line. It could be a loser or it could just just OK.

For me, the risk is too high IMHO. 


 Thank you so much Michael! What would you look for in order to feel more comfortable yourself in this deal? Is there anything else besides the insurance I should ask about?  This might be a dumb question, but what would make it work over time? 

Quote from @Annie Seurer:

I don't know what the property looks like but unless the bathrooms are really bad, you may want to spend your money on design/furnishing/amenities. We have found that remodeling kitchens and bathrooms don't see the same ROI as amenities, stand out design and furnishings, etc. You have to ask yourself the question: are you designing this space for yourself or for your Guests/highest revenue potential? I see a lot of investors remodeling and designing the home as if they were going to live in it and it's the biggest mistake. From quick glance, just about every single one of the condos look the same - I see A TON of opportunity to stand out from the competition.

Beware of AirDNA data. The last fund I worked for who pulled and analyzed AirDNA found a lot of discrepancies and false data. Those who are pulling in 80k/year compared to the 50k - what is different? Do they have better design and ratings? Have they just been on the market much longer? If they look similar, I'd bet they've just been listed much longer or AirDNA is double counting revenue - it happens a lot. Your best bet is to knock this one out of the park if you want to see consistent and higher cashflow. 


Thank you so much! The $80k number comes from other actual listings separate from AirDNA. Those condos are a little more updated and bright, but I agree I think there’s a lot of room to stand out! Have you invested in a property like this before? Any other tips? 

Quote from @John Underwood:

Use the more conservative numbers.

That is a huge HOA expense.

HOA fees can go up and rules can change so be warned.

I agree! I thought it was high too, but it seems like maybe a more year to year controlled cost because it covers so much? 

Hey everyone!

My wife and I are starting our investment journey and have our heart set on Anna Maria Island for our first STR/BRRRR. We fell in love with the island as a family and know it pretty well now. We recently found a condo willing to do owner financing at a 4% interest rate with a purchase price of $500,000. We can put $30k down and refinance in 5 years but the agreed upon terms are payments during the 5 years would be based on a 30 year term. This is obviously an amazing opportunity with interests rates what they are now. We are struggling somewhat with the rental comps. The HOA covers all water, flood and building insurance, internet, bug spraying etc. and it's $1562 a month. We found a management company that is charging 10%. We expect to have holding costs of $15k to get through the off season and the condo is pretty updated so we would only be spending $10k in renovations (updating the bathroom and then finishes in the remaining rooms). Its a 2 bedroom 2 bath with a ton of storage.

According to AirDNA, the rental comps for the area are averaging $49k a year. However, we know of other condos in the same complex that are averaging $80k a year. This is our first investment so we are trying to make sure we are making a good choice. Ideally we would like to cash flow or at bare minimum break even. Has anyone else made a similar investment? Does this sound like a good opportunity? Is there anything we are missing?

Quote from @Dominick Johnson:

I'll respond to your question since nobody else has. Your lender can be located wherever they want, does not matter where you invest/live.

Thank you so much Dominick! I really appreciate it!

Hello,

I am new to Bigger Pockets and real estate investing! I am doing all the research I can on BRRRR to find my first investment property for Long distance STR (vacation properties). I will most likely try to find a hard money lender for my first deal. Here comes the dumb question: Does your hard money lender have to be in the state you reside or in the state of the property you are hoping to acquire?