All Forum Posts by: Tom Makinen

Of course! What was I thinking? Why would I believe my good friend, whom I have known for over 40 years, when I have you, a stranger on the internet, to tell me what is true? 

Here are two excellent examples of government overreach in this "crisis":

1. From a high school friend of mine who lives in San Jose, CA:
"So does Shelter-In-Place mean I can’t be out side gardening in my backyard or working on my house and doing stucco and fixing possible leaks in walls??? Apparently so. I noticed the San Jose Police Helicopter circling above Glider Elementary School (now closed, since June 2018) when 2 officers enter my open gate on my side yard to tell me that only emergency construction was currently allowed. I pointed out to them that the only reason of a possible spread of the virus was because they came into my back yard without a mask.. I told them to leave... Eventually they did... After I got a warning... I said they didn’t have permission to come onto my property... They said they announced who they were.l and asked me to get off of the ladder... I said, “why am I going to run away?” Or are you going to shoot me... Obviously, I’m a danger to them if I have a trowel of stucco in my hand... When did it become the interest of the police to stop someone applying stucco on the back of his house... but it’s okay for everyone and his dog to take a walk?????"

2. [Headline] Springfield, Greene County leaders loosen some restrictions on stay-at-home order
That "loosening" boils down to this: "Springfield Mayor Ken McClure said many businesses previously deemed “non-essential” will be allowed to take orders via telephone or the Internet. Those businesses will also be allowed to fulfill the orders through shipping, delivery, or curbside pickup, effective immediately."
Those restrictions should never have been put in place, and are exactly what the people who are protesting are reacting to. For a little perspective, Greene County has a population of about 300,000, 85 virus cases, (39 active) and 7 deaths.

@Tom Makinen things are changing daily that's for sure.  I'm hopeful our entrepreneurial spirit will drive innovations in response technologies moving forward.  

@Tom Makinen where are you getting those numbers?  I'm seeing much lower numbers quoted in very recent articles including what @Victor S. shared.  Here's one from Forbes.

I'm not saying you're wrong to be worried, but if you're going to argue with someone based upon numbers you made up, that's not helpful.

Who’s being selfish? The only way the shutdown affects me is I’m bored. I’m the one thinking of people losing their jobs, their homes and their retirement because of a selfish government mandated shutdown. I assume you’re kidding Tom, or didn’t read the previous posts about 60% of our tourists drive or the posts about nobody is staying home because they are scared. People were at the casinos here after other states shutdown, they stayed until the governor made them close. Or noticed we’re averaging less than 20 deaths a week. Way less than smoking, suicides, overdoses, etc that nobody is worried about. Ps. You do realize they are counting every pneumonia death, flu death, and even every possible covid death as the cause of death. 

Remember when the estimate was 2 million in the US alone, then 1.2 million, then a couple hunddd thousand, now its 60k? Remember AFTER the stay at home order the California governor still predicted 25 million California cases with 5 million in the hospital? It sure looks like the average cost per life saved is going to be north of $10 million. I wonder if that coulda been better spent?

Ps. Wyoming has been shut down for 6 weeks over 1 death. Does that sound logical?