All Forum Posts by: Tim Yang

You don't have to pay all upfront.  They have a payment program. Your mentor only gets the commission as long as you continue to pay and you only get access to the training as long as you pay.  Additionally, you should get the name of your mentor's 5-star and, if your mentor isn't doing his job, go up the line to that person.  

I just went to a "retreat" (it was a camping trip up at Cochise Stronghold) where the leader in my area had a sit-down with me about my 5-star.  He's been MIA for a few months.  To be honest, I really don't need much "managing", I'm busy rebuilding the house I'm in and I've bought 3 properties since I joined Renatus a year ago, but my leader was concerned that my 5-star wasn't giving me enough attention.  He even explained how I could move to someone else if I felt the need.  

In my experience, the support is amazing.  Everyone that I've met is more than happy to help me in any way they can.

What town are you in? I'm currently in Tucson, but moving up to Portland, OR in a year and intend on opening an office up there.  I know there are some Renatus folks there, but not a really strong presence and I intend on changing that.

I spent years digging through YouTube and buying books. I've learned 10x more about REI in the little over a year that I've been with Renatus than I did in the 10 years before that. My investment strategy (what we call our "Investor ID") has changed significantly since I started with the company. The clarity I've acquired is amazing and has instilled a ton of confidence in my REI dealings.

Hell, the leader of the Tucson group, last year, asked to borrow some money for a RE deal he was doing.  I contributed $20k.  8 months later, he gave me $27k back.  That's about a 35% return on my money and I didn't have to lift a finger.  Just that one deal gave me 1/3 of my Renatus investment back.  

If you are in an area with even a mildly strong group, you don't just get your one mentor.  EVERYONE in the group will help you out.  We get FREE study groups several times a week that we can attend via Zoom from all over the country.  We have both generalized meetings where people will overview different strategies and other meetings where people dig deep into specific strategies.  And it's not just "sit and listen", you get to ask as many questions as you want.  During the retreat, people were actually kind of giving me crap for NOT attending enough meetings.  

By the way, the cost just went up last year.  It's now $2500 for Essentials and $25,000 for the AIT.  If you want to experience it, just pay the $2500 and get the Essentials.  Experience the training, experience the group you are involved with and see how it goes.

BTW, being an ICM is TOTALLY optional.  It's just another way to make money.  You don't want to sell the education, don't do it.  It's just another way to make money.  And it's not for everyone, and that is perfectly fine.  Like I said, just what you will learn about how to structure your money will easily pay for everything and then some.

No, I don't. Before I joined Renatus, I did 2 RE deals. Between them, it cost me about $70k. COST me about $70k. Had I been part of the Renatus community, they would have cost me between 1/4 and 1/2 that. Probably even less because I wouldn't have even gotten into 1 of them.

Renatus isn't just education. It doesn't just teach how to structure your businesses for maximum protection. It doesn't just teach how to minimize your tax liability. It doesn't just teach multiple paths of income. It doesn't just teach how to pay off your house in 1/3 the time and save tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest. It doesn't just teach what to look for and what to avoid in your real estate deals. It provide community. You become part of a team that looks out for each other, that helps analyze not only deals, but situations. Buying the education gives you a mentor for the rest of your life. It gives you continuing education. It gives you motivation.

You people seem to think that when you buy into Renatus, you are just buying a bunch of CDs like all the other fly-by-night REI gurus. But Renatus is exactly the opposite of that.

People think that money buys you happiness. They are wrong. As my bother says, it doesn't buy you happiness, it buys you OPTIONS. It buys you OPPORUNITIES. Renatus is the same thing. With the Essentials (which are only $2500), it teaches how to save $100,000 in interest on a $200,000 house with no extra money put into your budget and without changing your lifestyle. Do you REALLY think that saving $100,000 isn't worth $2,500?

Renatus pays for itself, EASILY, within the first couple of RE deals. So, no, I don't think it's expensive, even at $25,000.

Well a rep told me to take a line of credit to pay for the $20,000 education. I said no way because I couldn't tell if I could keep him accountable. I'm looking for a mentor, not someone who just sells me an education and go through live classes. I want someone to invest their time in me. I felt like these reps were just looking for a commission. This is MLM to me. I'm not the recruiting type. I strictly want to learn REI and hopefully the knowledge and mentoring I gain will help me be on my own one day. $20,000 is a lot to me. I would rather much take education and then pay it back on my first couple deals. That way it keeps the mentor accountable. Paying upfront makes me nervous. I need to know I'm not being played. $20,000 is a big investment.

No, I don't. Before I joined Renatus, I did 2 RE deals. Between them, it cost me about $70k. COST me about $70k. Had I been part of the Renatus community, they would have cost me between 1/4 and 1/2 that. Probably even less because I wouldn't have even gotten into 1 of them.

Renatus isn't just education. It doesn't just teach how to structure your businesses for maximum protection. It doesn't just teach how to minimize your tax liability. It doesn't just teach multiple paths of income. It doesn't just teach how to pay off your house in 1/3 the time and save tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest. It doesn't just teach what to look for and what to avoid in your real estate deals. It provide community. You become part of a team that looks out for each other, that helps analyze not only deals, but situations. Buying the education gives you a mentor for the rest of your life. It gives you continuing education. It gives you motivation.

You people seem to think that when you buy into Renatus, you are just buying a bunch of CDs like all the other fly-by-night REI gurus. But Renatus is exactly the opposite of that.

People think that money buys you happiness. They are wrong. As my bother says, it doesn't buy you happiness, it buys you OPTIONS. It buys you OPPORUNITIES. Renatus is the same thing. With the Essentials (which are only $2500), it teaches how to save $100,000 in interest on a $200,000 house with no extra money put into your budget and without changing your lifestyle. Do you REALLY think that saving $100,000 isn't worth $2,500?

Renatus pays for itself, EASILY, within the first couple of RE deals. So, no, I don't think it's expensive, even at $25,000.

Tim Yang - So, let me get this straight... you think that no company should ever have to spend even a dime on advertising.  Really?  So you get more deals than you can do without spending a dime on any business cards, letters, or anything else?  You have people just flocking to your door to sell you their properties without you ever having to advertise?

And any company that actually spends money on advertising is automatically scamming people?  Do you even understand how capitalism works?

"other half goes straight to the person selling you the course." -- And here you are saying that sales people should work for free?  That no one should ever be compensated for putting out the effort of building a community of people who all work together?  Isn't that a little naive?  Do YOU get paid to work?  If so, why do you think other people shouldn't be allowed to get paid to work?