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All Forum Posts by: Tim Delaney

Tim Delaney has started 1 posts and replied 777 times.

Post: Syndication: Fairway America Vivo Rancho Cordova - Review

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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You may want to post this over on Passive Pockets.

Post: Advice Needed: Identifying "Good Deals" in Real Estate Investing

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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At the most basic level a good deal makes you money with minimal cash and effort. Sometimes you have to bring a little more cash, others a little more effort. Ideally not too much of both.

The best way to learn what makes a good deal is to just keep analyzing. Find properties, and plug the numbers in the BP calculators. It may be helpful to analyze each deal as a flip and a BRRRR so you understand why sometimes it works as one but not the other.

There will be some people that say it’s not all about the numbers though, and I would agree. But the numbers is where it starts. Once you start learning how to identify a good deal financially you also need to make sure the property is not in a really crappy depreciating area or that the building is completely falling apart structurally.

Hope this helps.

Post: Multi-party investing deal structure for BRRRR/House hack

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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Quote from @Nate McCarthy:
Quote from @Tim Delaney:

You have a lot going on there and I’m not sure I fully understood your thought process. At a basic level there is no one set way to structure a partnership. There is definitely more too it than just the money that goes in. But with three partners and one looking to move into the property it will probably be complicated. So first, can you do this without the other two partners or with just one of them? Or just pay your sister a finders fee for getting the deal?

If the other two parties want to flip a house maybe they can do just that as partners and then sell you the house which you can buy with a primary home loan with low down payment. They could even hire you to do the work on the house and instead of paying you they could just give you a credit at closing. That may keep things cleaner for everyone.


 Tim, thank you so much for the thoughtful response here. I think all of your suggestions are great possible ideas to do this deal! 

To simplify the scenario I'm envisioning let me put it this way: what does a BRRRR look like when one of the parties contributing to the down payment and rehab costs ultimately ends up being the renter as well?

I'm curious about this particular scenario because I'm imagining it as a way where all 3 parties (in this case) can get something out of the deal. That said, I'm grateful for the alternatives you present--you're keeping the bottom line in mind, so I appreciate your help in exploring options that achieve the bottom line for the investors.


 I think if you are going to keep all three parties involved as owners of the deal long term then you need to separate yourself as a renter and a contractor. If you are going to be doing the rehab work in exchange for equity then that value needs to be determined up front with a specific timeline that you have to adhere to in order to earn your equity. This is a significant risk to the other two parties that are bringing the deal and the money when they could just as easily hire a contractor and keep the equity for themselves. As for rent, the three parties agree on a fair rent for the apartment and that is what you pay the partnership every month in rent. You take your share of distributions if/when there is money to share.

And then I go back to the person with money. If they want their money back fast like a flip then let them flip it and you buy it as a primary residence with a conventional or fha mortgage. You will get way better loan terms than you would on a Cash out Refi as a partnership entity with no RE experience.

This is all very theoretical, can you share the actual numbers so we can help you more?

Post: New to investing - looking for wholesalers & agents

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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Are you looking to focus in a particular area or property type?

I’m an investor in Buffalo and happy to buy deals.

Post: Rehab Financing Strategy Help

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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I like the idea of using a HELOC over a personal loan and going with option 2, but it depends on what your goals are. Just keep in mind that using that emergency fund to buy your next property and having tapped a HELOC already may leave you in a bad spot if you run into a similar problem again.

Also, I’m not 100% sure, but I have heard that personal loans don’t your credit more so than other types of debt so be sure you look into that if you go the personal loans route and then planned to finance your next purchase soon after.

Post: Multi-party investing deal structure for BRRRR/House hack

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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You have a lot going on there and I’m not sure I fully understood your thought process. At a basic level there is no one set way to structure a partnership. There is definitely more too it than just the money that goes in. But with three partners and one looking to move into the property it will probably be complicated. So first, can you do this without the other two partners or with just one of them? Or just pay your sister a finders fee for getting the deal?

If the other two parties want to flip a house maybe they can do just that as partners and then sell you the house which you can buy with a primary home loan with low down payment. They could even hire you to do the work on the house and instead of paying you they could just give you a credit at closing. That may keep things cleaner for everyone.

Post: Newbie Plan. Thoughts?

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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Is your new house going to be a househack? Or can it be? That would be a helpful addition to your plan as you would further reduce your cost of living.

Also don’t forget from that $600 you are planning on getting in cash flow you have taxes, insurance, maintenance, capex, and vacancy to consider.

With two homes, you may want to keep that extra $20k as an emergency fund rather than spending it on a third property and then be left with no emergency funds.

Post: Buffalo New York Mutifamily

Tim Delaney
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Quote from @Trace P.:
Quote from @Timothy Smith:

Hi Pravit. You are in the right place to discuss this. I also saw your post on one of the local Buffalo facebook forums, and will caution you that you are going to get a WIDE variety of feedback from a WIDE variety of investors -- especially on that group! 

I suggest you "dial in" what you are asking. You are casting a very wide net without providing what your prioritized criteria might be. Are you looking for cash flow? Appreciation? Ease of management? Tolerance for value-add? Speed of building a portfolio (Cash-on-Cash return is a factor here)? I think your questions are a bit to general and you are going to get even more general responses. However, I'll take a stab here.

What town should be easier to manage? This completely depends on what you are looking for. Cheap houses in lower class neighborhoods will get you cash flow with a lot of headache. Class A properties are going to cost you more, have lower cash flow, yet be more attractive to a higher quality tenant base. They generally will offer greater appreciation, as well. 

Management. I also self-manage my portfolio, but I also live here and have the time/knowledge/resources to do so. Property management can be great if you are willing to give up a percentage of your gross rents to not deal with headaches, but it's not like you can just ignore your asset. You will still have to make decisions, and ultimately, you are entrusting someone else with your asset. It works great for many people -- not me -- but it might be your best option considering your distance. 

If you are going to self-manage, you need a great TEAM. You need at least one handyman on speed dial (preferably more), a good contractor for the bigger things, roofer, plumber, electrician, cleaner, etc etc. Preferably 3 deep in each of those categories. Of course, you don't need to do that before investing, but you need to be building that list. You also need a leasing agent, unless you are going to advertise and screen tenants yourself. In this case, get familiar with NYS landlord/tenant law or find someone who is. 

You mentioned the UB neighborhoods. Keep in mind that this comes with high turnover, and (often) students who will beat the hell out of the property! Not all of them, but eventually, they will! This could be very difficult if you are going to self-manage, as you will be turning units every year and dealing with a lot of repairs. My business partner does a lot of work for UB property owners and shares some pretty rough stories with me. It's just not a subclass I want to be involved in, but perhaps you can make it work for you! 

My closing advice is that you connect with a local agent or mentor who also invests in the neighborhoods you are considering. Be wary of the facebook groups as most folks will have a "pitch" or just see the possibility of a transaction. Find someone who can help you dial down on what YOU want as an asset, and has experience with that kind of property. Buffalo changes very quickly block to block (not just ZIP by ZIP) and it is crucial that you understand this prior to writing any checks. The same street with the difference of a hundred house numbers can look drastically different.

I hope this helps, rather than be discouraging. I would spend time building your list of WHO (agent, mentor, contractor/handyman), then WHAT (house type, tenant base, work needed), then WHERE (location). Happy to connect via messages if you'd like to dive deeper.

Tim


Good words Timothy! I have ~20 doors in OH that I self manage (there are some awesome softwares out there now for self management) and am looking to start investing in Buffalo too. But I noted that places like North Tonawanda as @Pravit Jarriyapurttipong mentioned are actually outside of Erie County, it's in Niagara County, which follows the stricter landlord laws as New York State... https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/changes-in-nys-rent-la...

Would you recommend sticking to Erie County boundaries for this purpose? Thank you!




The document you linked to is for NY State as a whole so that applies to Erie and Niagara counties. Locally some investors say that Niagara county is actually a little more landlord friendly than Erie, but I do not have experience in both counties so I can't comment on that.

Post: Why Buffalo is the Hottest Real Estate Market of 2025 (Again!)

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 787
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Quote from @Trace P.:
Quote from @Matthew Irish-Jones:

Buffalo is a good market to invest long term if you get a good property, on a good street, in good condition.  

If you weight your analysis by:  1. Location 2. Asset Condition 3. Returns you can do just fine.  If you get greedy and put #3 in front of #1 or #2 you can get burned like any other market. 


In all markets in fact, this applies. 

I currently invest in OH but am interested in looking into Buffalo too. Been seeing awesome numbers especially for duplexes. However I did note that houses are mostly really old, e.g. 100 years or older... any idea if this poses challenges in things like lead paint presence, outdated wiring, rusty plumbing, etc., or have many of the homes already been updated?  

This is one of the things that @Matthew Irish-Jones mentioned above - be careful about putting #3 on his list above #1 and #2. The numbers often look the best in some of the worst areas to manage and on properties that have the most deferred maintenance. I actually know other investors from Singapore that got burned very badly in this market. That said, it is a great place to invest and there are still plenty of good deals despite the national attention! Not as many as there used to be, but they are still here.

Post: Help with finding multi-family properties on BP

Tim Delaney
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  • Buffalo, NY
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Zillow and Redfin are much better for finding listings. You could also engage the services of a buyer’s agent. It may be worth having an experienced professional helping you and you could always try to get the seller to pay your agent’s fees.