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All Forum Posts by: Tim Soto

Tim Soto has started 10 posts and replied 126 times.

Post: New member from Los Angeles, CA

Tim Soto
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  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Hi Christal,

Welcome to Bigger Pockets. I noticed that you do have an advantage that could work for you. Working full-time for the USPS, you're essentially going through neighborhoods and looking at properties. I would take notice of the vacant and ugly properties, and circle back around during off-hours to get those addresses. You can then locate the owners through the MLS tax page or through the title company your brokerage firm works with most. Then send direct-mail marketing flyers and/or letters to the owner's offering to list their property for sale or to purchase their property directly. I'd be happy to talk more about this potential opportunity. Again, welcome to BP and I look forward reading about your future success.

Kindest regards,

Tim

Post: Successful Self Storage Closing Thanks To Private Lenders

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Thanks everyone!!!

@Jonahvan Rico. The existing on-site manager was leasing the property up during escrow without any changes in marketing. The NOI at 30% vacancy was roughly $35,000/annually. Right now I have to recalculate the numbers, because not only did we fill some vacancies, but the expenses decreased as well, which brought up the NOI even more. We closed on the 8th of October, so there were some prorated rents deducted. November will be my 1st full month of actual numbers. This reminds me... One other stradegy I forgot to mention is that I always try to close on the 3rd of the month. So even when there's a delay with escrow, I was still able to close as early as October 8 and still collect 20+ days of prorated rents, without really having to pay any operating expenses. All of the operating expenses for the month were payed by the seller on the 1st, and I don't have a mortgage payment until November 1st. This enabled me to pay my closing costs, including property taxes for this half of the year, insurance premiums for the next 12 months, and the rest in reserves.

In regards to drafting the Note and Deed of Trust, I have done it in the past, but it's been a while and forms change, so I used a existing templates and submitted them to escrow/title for their feedback. They're not going to let me execute and record a document that isn't 100% accurate. So, we went back and forth with my mistakes until I got it right. I could've easily just had an atotrney draft it up for $200, which I would totally recommend, but I wanted to have a template of my own that I can use again. Thanks for the great questions.

Tim

Post: Successful Self Storage Closing Thanks To Private Lenders

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Hi everyone. I’m glad to have the opportunity to share my latest investment transaction in hopes of inspiring anyone in need of a nudge or offering some valuable information. I recently just closed on a under-performing and value-added commercial real estate opportunity, which is a self storage property in Kern County, CA.

I initially saw the property through an auto e-mail inquiry from LoopNet, based on my criteria. I know that to some investors, LoopNet is a graveyard for deals, but I like it for that same reason because, as some listings can become stale on the MLS, I feel that my chances of finding a motivated seller is higher. Plus, I know how to identify the value-added opportunities.

This property is a 100 unit under-performing self storage REO property on 3.5 acres in Kern County. The 100 units alone is barely occupying one of the acres, leaving 2.5 acres of flat graded gravel still available for expansion or for RV/Boat storage.

I saw this listing back in September 2014, and what got my attention was that I used to own a multifamily property in that area from 1999-2004. So, I knew about the area, including demographics, the micro-economic driving forces, steadily increasing population growth, etc. I didn't take any action at the time because I felt it was way over-priced, based on its existing financial condition. It was listed at $500k with 30% vacancy factor and an annual Net Operating Income (NOI) of roughly $35,000. I need to go in at a 10% cap rate to meet my acquisition criteria. At a 10% cap rate, my max purchase price would be $350K. So, I flagged the listing to notify me of any changes, in case there was a price reduction or if it was no longer available.

After a couple of months, I received an alert that it went under contract, so I just went about my business and put it behind me. Another couple of months go by and I receive another alert that it was available again, and that’s when contacted the listing agent to express my interest. I gave him my perspective on it and why it wasn’t moving at their price. I added that I’m the right buyer for this property, but that it had to be at the right price. I didn’t want to get in already treading against the tide. I have to get in, where the existing income will be able to cover the hard costs (taxes, insurance, utilities, payroll, etc.) and with enough spread to cover the mortgage payment. I didn’t want to pay for an income stream that wasn’t there. If I had to create the income by off-setting expenses and filling vacancies, then I should benefit from it. It took a few months of going back and forth on negotiating a price, mainly because the seller was an entity with a board of directors, which all had to agree on the responses. So, it would take like a week or two to get an answer, but that was okay because it allowed me to line up my financing.

The story behind this property is that it was purchased and constructed in 2006, a time when everything was over-inflated. This property had a $1,000,000 note that had been called, including almost another million in out-of-pocket costs from the previous owner. That doesn’t justify a value, but it does indicate the reason for the under-performance, management inefficiencies, and potential value.

I started my offer with $270K, and after a few months of going back and forth, we finally agreed at $325K and opened escrow in August with 5% down. So, I got it under contract below my max price of $350K and with tremendous up-side. One of the other reasons I feel that this deal came together successfully, besides knowing about the area, was that even though I’m a licensed agent and could have submitted my own offer, I would rather have the listing agent represent me and double-end the commission on the transaction, as long as they’re able to present my offer(s) and provisions effectively. I always try to use this method initially. I’ll talk with them, try to build rapport, and see if this is what will help get the deal done.

As I mentioned earlier, during these months of negotiations, I was trying to line up financing and found a lender that specializes in self storage properties. Everything was going smoothly with the lending process except that we couldn’t supply the lenders with their requirement of three previous years of tax returns of the business. The inability to obtain these documents became too risky for the credit committee to approve the asset, and I was ultimately declined for the loan. So I turned to plan B.

As you may or may not know, I'm also a real estate agent and specialize in representing investors, who buy, fix, and flip residential properties. Throughout the projects, I'm always talking about my other specialty, which is identifying under-performing and value-added commercial real estate investment opportunities. I feel this is a great way to set yourself up to obtain a JV partner or private financing. While still going through the loan process, I knew things were looking bleak, so I reached out to the last four investors, who I've worked with this past year and presented the opportunity to be my lender, just in case the loan didn't go through. I wrote down, showed, and explained my analysis on the investment opportunity. I explained my plans how I was going to stabilize the property, the income and value before and after after I stabilize it, how long it would take to stabilize it to refinance the private loan, and how their investment was going to be insulated from loss, which was based on my purchase price.

One of the investors responsed within a day, mentioning that it was a coinsidence I had brought the opportunity up at the right time because they were considering investing in another asset class. We then preceeded with escrow. I drafted the Note and Deed of Trust with mutually beneficial terms, and presented it to escrow, which reviewed and critiqued it for editting before it was executed. I was hoping to get 100% financing and get my down payment back at closing to move into the next transaction that I was looking at, but they insisted I keep my skin in the game. Instead, they’re funding me on the next one, and they’ll keep on funding me as long as I perform on the agreement(s). We just recently closed ealier this month and already making an offer on the next. I would say that our relationship during our initial transactions opened up the door for this type of opportunity.

Thank you all for reading and allowing me to share this experience. I’m hoping any of you can take some valuable nuggets or well needed inspiration from this. I’ll follow up on this with more accurate monthly numbers because we’re currently at 90% occupancy and our expenses have dropped dramatically, especially the annual taxes. Please feel free to share your thoughts and comments.

Thanks,

Tim 

Post: Successfuly Fix & Flip in Southern Cal

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Hi @Michael Rogers. Thanks! I enjoyed our talk and totally apprciate your recommendations and inspiration. It was very helpful. I'm looking forward to following up with you. 

Tim

Post: Successfuly Fix & Flip in Southern Cal

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Thanks everyone! 

@Patricio P. , yes, I've been an investor long before I obtained my RE license. I actually just closed on an incredible 100 unit self storage property in Kern County to add to my portfolio. That's going to be my next post here in the next day or two. My future plans are to continue representing investor buyers with their investment transactions, and I'm looking at two other great under-performing self storage investment opportunities for myself. 

Post: Successfuly Fix & Flip in Southern Cal

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Mostly Southern California (Los Angeles, Venura, and Santa Barbara Counties).

Post: Successfuly Fix & Flip in Southern Cal

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Hi everyone. I just wanted to post a recent success story as a real estate investor-friendly agent here in Southern California. I represented the investor on the buy, and negotiated the price that would allow enough room for rehab costs and a decent return, which is hard to come by here in Ventura County, but doable. This property is located in a very desirable area of Conejo Valley, with an award-winning school district. I saw it on the MLS with a starting list price at $620K, and within a month's time, the price had been reduced a few times down to $550K. That's how I identified that this was a real motivated seller. After running the numbers, I presented the investor/buyer with this opportunity at $445K, $60K rehab costs, $600K ARV, $35K back-end closing costs, and $60K return.

One thing that helps me negotiate, and an investor/buyer’s offer get accepted, is the ability to close within a week or so. It doesn’t work all the time, but may work with a motivated seller, whose property has been on the market for some time.

As most agents know, the first two week on the MLS is the most important time for a listing. It's the time that the property will get the most exposure and activity from potential buyers. Once those two week go by, the activity starts to dwindle and the window of opportunity, to get offers at or above list price, starts to close. So, when a property has been on the market for over 30 days, depending on the motivation, a seller may be more than happy to take a lower cash offer with a quick close and no contingencies, giving an investor/buyer a great opportunity.

Anyway, we got the offer accepted and the investor, who’s also got a great contractor team, started the rehab. Seeing as I was also getting the listing once completed, they allowed me to have some input on the finishes, which I felt would help me present the property in detail to potential buyers and agents, and justify the future sale price.

After a few months, the property was completed and ready to list. The investor and I used our own furniture to stage the property. I attached some pictures below. Please take a look and let me know what you guys think.

One of the strategies that I use to build momentum on a listing is to email-blast agents (local and surrounding areas) this property as a pocket listing. It gives a sense of urgency and the impression that something great is available only to a few for a limited time, and any exposure to the market may make their chances of getting their offer accepted, more challenging.

To conclude, we got the offer we were looking for. We had a few hiccups during escrow but managed to pull through. This transaction and others continue to help me learn things that I feel will enable me in the future to be a better representative. We’re on the next property in Pasadena, which I’m eager to share, once that’s completed. Thanks for allowing me to share this experience.

Tim

Post: Newbie introduction plus dual agency question

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

Hi @Paul M., welcome to BP!

Great responses here. My take on it, based on my personal experience and the way I approach it, is that I'm going to do my own due diligence on the property first, then come up with a purchase price offer. During the evaluation process, I'll keep in touch with the listing agent. I'll ask questions before and after I evaluate the property to get a feel for how I'm going to proceed. If I think the listing agent will try to push my offer through at my price, then I'm going to suggest for them to represent me and not care what their commission may be. 

I know going in, that they're going to look out for the seller's best interest than my own, so I know I'll be doing most of the leg work myself, which I am prepared to do anyway. If I feel that I can do a better job representing myself, then I'll submit the offer myself. 

If I didn't have the experience and knowledge, I don't know if I would approach it the same way. A new investor can't trust that they would get the same representation and a better deal if the listing agent agreed to represent them too. That can come back to bite them because, as I mentioned, the listing agent is looking out for the seller's best interest above all. Also, the listing agent wants to get the deal done, so being new to this environment, how would a new investor know what information or disclosures are being left out or over-looked, and from my experience, it's happened. You have to be assertive, proactive, and most importantly verify the numbers and documents. As a new investor, I would get my own representation and still make my purchase offer no matter how low it is. I would also have my rep walk me through the whole transaction and explain the process, and ask a lot of questions. 

Hope this was helpful. Good luck!

Kindest regards,

Tim    

Post: Buying my first wholesale deal in California

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

That number actually looks reasonable.  Cool, I'll contact you off line.

Tim

Post: Buying my first wholesale deal in California

Tim Soto
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Ventura County, CA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 61

@Jim Keller, if you want to get the real ARV out of a property in LA county, I'll guarantee that you'll need to spend at least $80K, including the high-end finishes. What's going on, is with all the fix & flip frenzy, these wholesalers are looking for a bigger fool than themselves. They're trying to sell a property with little equity and market with minimal rehab, which used to work in the past. Thinking that you can rehab a property for 40K to cover that ARV is grossly naive. Dude, you need to open walls, and sometimes gut the whole thing if you want to position that property to catch that ARV. If you can close in 10 days, I'll find you one. Let me know.

Tim