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All Forum Posts by: Timothy Smith

Timothy Smith has started 9 posts and replied 128 times.

Post: Boiler unit on a 4-plex

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

@Jim Bice this actually sounds pretty reasonable to me given the situation you described. I've got a three story 4-unit in Buffalo with two steam boiler systems. Gas bills spike at $300 or so each during the coldest months. Do yourself a favor and find an expert on your particular system -- that might not necessarily mean one of the big name companies. The old school guys who work on historical properties are a good place to start. We had a couple companies come in and give wild quotes to rework our system, then found a guy who showed up with schematics and trade journal articles on our particular system, spent 2 hours educating us on it, then cost about $500 to go around and fix all the crappy work previous "contractors" did to the system to try "fixing" it. 

Before you raise rents, give it a full calendar year then re-evaluate. Put your thermostats in lock boxes so people can't jack it way up.

Post: 2-4 Family With Cash Flow

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Yes, you can still achieve this in the Buffalo market. However...not turnkey, and you've got to know the sub-neighborhoods (or micro markets) as things change very quickly block by block. Expect significant renovation, so having a reliable renovation crew is worth its weight in gold. Being NYS, you've got to know Landlord/Tenant law or leverage someone who does. Property Management takes a nice cut out of your margin, unless you have the systems built to do it in-house. 

That's a lot more to chew on than most non-locals want to deal with, but for those of us here, there are good opportunities to be had.

Post: Looking for deals in Buffalo, NY

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Once again, @Matthew Irish-Jones beat me to the punch! I was going to caution the same wisdom. This is a tough town to buy in if you don't have reliable boots-on-ground. Neighborhoods change extremely quickly, construction is old and requires people who know what they are doing. Proceed with caution.

Post: Just getting acclimated with Bigger Pockets

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Hi Rick, welcome to the BP family. Hope to meet you at next week's Pearl Street meet-up. Nice folks and a lot of knowledge to go around. 

Post: Real Estate Attorney For Litigation In Buffalo Needed

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Will send you a DM. 

Post: Long Winter Vacancies

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

I'll second what Tim said. Also here in Buffalo, and this was a topic at our monthly BP meetup last week. Everyone is feeling it. Some folks will give you the simple reply that if you can't fill it, your rent is either too high or something else is wrong with your ad. I don't believe that is the case, especially if you have a quality unit, priced competitively, and clear advertising. Someone is always looking to move, you just need to know why. It is better to have a vacant unit than a bad tenant. 

Post: Looking for quality & reliable GC in Buffalo area

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Hi Adam, please send me a note and I can give you my GC's contact info. He's managed several renovations for me (including in my own home) and we are also partners on a few ventures here in Buffalo. Stand-up, honest, good guy.

Post: Buffalo New York Mutifamily

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Hi Pravit. You are in the right place to discuss this. I also saw your post on one of the local Buffalo facebook forums, and will caution you that you are going to get a WIDE variety of feedback from a WIDE variety of investors -- especially on that group! 

I suggest you "dial in" what you are asking. You are casting a very wide net without providing what your prioritized criteria might be. Are you looking for cash flow? Appreciation? Ease of management? Tolerance for value-add? Speed of building a portfolio (Cash-on-Cash return is a factor here)? I think your questions are a bit to general and you are going to get even more general responses. However, I'll take a stab here.

What town should be easier to manage? This completely depends on what you are looking for. Cheap houses in lower class neighborhoods will get you cash flow with a lot of headache. Class A properties are going to cost you more, have lower cash flow, yet be more attractive to a higher quality tenant base. They generally will offer greater appreciation, as well. 

Management. I also self-manage my portfolio, but I also live here and have the time/knowledge/resources to do so. Property management can be great if you are willing to give up a percentage of your gross rents to not deal with headaches, but it's not like you can just ignore your asset. You will still have to make decisions, and ultimately, you are entrusting someone else with your asset. It works great for many people -- not me -- but it might be your best option considering your distance. 

If you are going to self-manage, you need a great TEAM. You need at least one handyman on speed dial (preferably more), a good contractor for the bigger things, roofer, plumber, electrician, cleaner, etc etc. Preferably 3 deep in each of those categories. Of course, you don't need to do that before investing, but you need to be building that list. You also need a leasing agent, unless you are going to advertise and screen tenants yourself. In this case, get familiar with NYS landlord/tenant law or find someone who is. 

You mentioned the UB neighborhoods. Keep in mind that this comes with high turnover, and (often) students who will beat the hell out of the property! Not all of them, but eventually, they will! This could be very difficult if you are going to self-manage, as you will be turning units every year and dealing with a lot of repairs. My business partner does a lot of work for UB property owners and shares some pretty rough stories with me. It's just not a subclass I want to be involved in, but perhaps you can make it work for you! 

My closing advice is that you connect with a local agent or mentor who also invests in the neighborhoods you are considering. Be wary of the facebook groups as most folks will have a "pitch" or just see the possibility of a transaction. Find someone who can help you dial down on what YOU want as an asset, and has experience with that kind of property. Buffalo changes very quickly block to block (not just ZIP by ZIP) and it is crucial that you understand this prior to writing any checks. The same street with the difference of a hundred house numbers can look drastically different.

I hope this helps, rather than be discouraging. I would spend time building your list of WHO (agent, mentor, contractor/handyman), then WHAT (house type, tenant base, work needed), then WHERE (location). Happy to connect via messages if you'd like to dive deeper.

Tim

Post: Excited (and Nervous!) to Start Our Real Estate Investment Journey

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

@Rebecca Cho welcome and congrats on making the intention to jump in! Buffalo is a great place to invest, but understanding that neighborhoods change extremely quickly is paramount to your success. Most people really don't understand this fact (myself include prior to moving here) and it can trip you up if you don't have reliable "boots on the ground" or a thorough understanding of neighborhoods and blocks. Just the other week I was giving a tour to a potential Canadian investor, and they were shocked at how quickly a street goes from mid/high-end to....well, not as desirable. My point being, having a reliable team here is a must.

Dialing in on what class neighborhood and what kind of property you want is as key as your metrics, especially given that much of our housing stock is ~125 years old --- at least in the city. If you are looking for turn-key, your returns won't be as high, but that is mitigated by lower stress. If you are willing to do some value-add, pulling off a BRRRR is still very possible, but be patient for the right deal.

I am a self-managing investor here in Buffalo, focusing on small multifamily with heavy value-add. Building a network of agents, contractors, vendors, and tradespeople is something I've spent a lot of time and energy doing, and it is immeasurably valuable in being able to do this. If you want to chat at any time, please drop me a note. I'm always up for a chat about local REI!

Regards,

Tim Smith

Post: Tiny Homes - Western New York - Buffalo Area

Timothy SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • Buffalo, NY
  • Posts 132
  • Votes 97

Just curious if you mean that the tiny home itself is the draw, or the area in which the tiny home is located is the draw. Like Lisa said, the only place I'm aware of this being a thing is in Ellicottville, but I am not an expert on that market. I do know, however, that they are pretty strict about the STR activity in the area.

There could be opportunity for urban in-fill with tiny homes, and I know several folks researching that possibility. The city of Buffalo is on the warpath against STRs, so that's something to keep in mind.