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All Forum Posts by: Tim Blanchard

Tim Blanchard has started 10 posts and replied 31 times.

I'm honestly disappointed in BP for putting so much behind this Pace guy. Although I guess they did publish his book so...

I did the onboarding call, saw the $8800 price tag for the "mentorship" program and decided to take a minute and dig deep.

I even bought the book. It's great marketing. Really great. But it's utter hype. The book BLOWS.

This is the deal:

Let's figure out a way to cold call as many distressed folks as we can to see if we can buy their reverse-mortgaged properties and put a few grand in their pockets, a few grand in a "TRANSACTION COORDINATOR"'s pockets and so on and so on.

It's borderline bottom feeding and it makes me pause to consider the integrity of BP, David Greene and Robuilt Robbie with his awesome hair.

I love learning about REI and love what I've gotten from this community thus far but the whole SUBTO tribe wreaks of used car salesmanship.

Sorry for the rant but that's just my $.02

I just had the “call” with them yesterday and decided to do a bit more digging before dropping $8800 on the program. Pace is definitely a force to be reckoned with but honestly after watching his videos for a bit you recognize a “formula” to his content. For every 15-20 minutes of fat there’s about 2 minutes of meat. Soooooo much dribbling for a couple of slam dunks.
He’ll sit there and discuss how he’s going to help out this many people and tape so many hours of content and close that many deals. It’s really impressive! But I don’t think the $8800 will leave my wallet to go to his today.  Maybe I’ll feel different after watching a bit more but at this point I need a break ;-)

So we’re closing on a mixed use property in a couple of weeks and are super pumped to get things rolling!

It's a cash deal (using HELOC funds).

There’s a 2 bed 3 bath house that is in dire need of repairs so the first order of business is to get that rent-ready so our carrying costs are somewhat minimized.

There are two other buildings on this 1.5 acre lot. One is a store front space that used to be a marine supply store and the other is a workshop/garage.

We fully understand that it’s going to be at least a year before we can do anything with the commercial buildings but are planning on cleaning up the parking area in front to rent to a couple of food trucks daily.

The property is located less than a mile from the entrance to a very popular state park and the food trucks will be able to capture that traffic during the warmer months.

Ideally, one of the food truck operators will decide after a while to grow their business into an actual brick and mortar and we’ll strike up a mutually beneficial deal with them to lease the space.

There's no way to subdivide the property but I'm wondering if there's any shot of refinancing the house once we've done the rehab so as to pull some of that HELOC money out.

Another idea is to approach a local bank with the overall plan and see what kind of financing we could get for the entire development project.

Thoughts?

Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Tim Blanchard:

Looks like our next deal is happening!

We're buying this unique piece of property that was at one time a popular retail location that sold marine/fishing gear. It's got a great foundation as well as a house on the other side of the property that we're looking to rehab and rent (long term) to carry the holding costs while we figure out what the heck to do with the commercial part. We're doing a cash deal for the property (HELOC money) but want to finance the rehab of the house (~$150k). We're confident that the ARV on the house alone is well above what we're paying for the whole property plus the rehab costs.
There are a ton of lenders out there with these “fix n flip” loan products but I’m apprehensive about engaging them since their terms seem pretty aggressive and we’re really looking to hold on to the property to cash in on the long term use of the space.

I would love to hear any suggestions on how to run the financing on this bad boy…

Initial purchase price - $160k (we've got HELOC funds for this but could go a different direction if it makes sense).

Rehab on house - $150k (realistically more like. $100-$120k but playing it safe).

ARV (on house alone) - $400k


 Hey Tim

Welcome to BiggerPockets

Don't take this wrong, but you've got a mess of a property and will have a very difficult time finding financing for it.

On one hand, you've got a retail space that probably has a decent location with good bones as they say. You have no experience buying retail commercial space though and you're going to encumber your primary residence with a HELOC to buy it.

The bonus to this purchase is there's a house that needs total renovation on the other side of the property. The ARV on the house is 400K by itself, but it's probably not by itself (meaning it's on the same parcel as the commercial building). If it's on the same parcel, you have a mixed use property that needs renovation and those loans are very difficult to come by. This one in particular, as you describe it, is going to be virtually impossible to comp for the appraiser to get value. It's going to require a commercial appraisal and the residential portion is going to be subject to instead of as is value.

Go to your local bank and see if they'll finance this for you.  

Go to the planning and zoning office and see if you can subdivide the property to get two parcels splitting the residential and commercial pieces.  That would be the only way I see this getting financed.

Best of luck

Stephanie

@Stephanie P: A lot of assumptions being made there but thanks for the comments nonetheless ;-)

Subdividing would be an amazing move I just dunno if the county would slow roll that process like they do everything else.

We're more looking for the refi options after rehabbing the house and "cleaning up" the commercial space.

We're buying this whole property for less than 50% it's value so we're coming into it ahead.

Looks like our next deal is happening!

We're buying this unique piece of property that was at one time a popular retail location that sold marine/fishing gear. It's got a great foundation as well as a house on the other side of the property that we're looking to rehab and rent (long term) to carry the holding costs while we figure out what the heck to do with the commercial part. We're doing a cash deal for the property (HELOC money) but want to finance the rehab of the house (~$150k). We're confident that the ARV on the house alone is well above what we're paying for the whole property plus the rehab costs.
There are a ton of lenders out there with these “fix n flip” loan products but I’m apprehensive about engaging them since their terms seem pretty aggressive and we’re really looking to hold on to the property to cash in on the long term use of the space.

I would love to hear any suggestions on how to run the financing on this bad boy…

Initial purchase price - $160k (we've got HELOC funds for this but could go a different direction if it makes sense).

Rehab on house - $150k (realistically more like. $100-$120k but playing it safe).

ARV (on house alone) - $400k

Just got the "term sheet" from Arron ("arrron.seaburyinvestmentsllc at gmail.com").

It's total BS: Download here

I googled and found this thread. 

Thank you Bigger Pockets Hive!!!

Post: Tear down - construction - flip

Tim BlanchardPosted
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Yeah. I think it’s gonna be a pass on this one. 
thanks for the input guys!

Post: Tear down - construction - flip

Tim BlanchardPosted
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Just looked at a property today that we'd really love to buy, tear down and rebuild.

The numbers almost make sense at a high level but I'm more curious about the financing strategy (costs) for such a deal...

We would like to put in an offer at $400k. The ARV looks to be ~$1.2m after about $400-500k in construction costs.

I'm guessing we'd be looking at ~$200k net at the end of it all. Does it seem like a lot of risk for not a lot of reward???

For the financial picture: I'm guessing 100% LTV for construction and 80% LTV for purchase price. If we're making interest only payments on the construction loan at 8.5% for 6 months, that's around $36k in interest. Am I missing something?

Post: Contacted Seller Directly

Tim BlanchardPosted
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The property is clearly overpriced having sat for 120 days without any offers.

I think we’re just gonna revisit in a month or so.

Post: Contacted Seller Directly

Tim BlanchardPosted
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Quote from @Ryan Kelly:

@Tim Blanchard your agent should be able to help you negotiate any option you wish (owner financing, lower price, closing cost credits, etc). It sounds like you are still in negotiations so I'd keep working on it until you reach a deal. We also don't know anything about your current agent and don't want to assume their expertise. Are they just doing what you ask them to do, or are they an experienced consultant who can provide you a variety of negotiation options and strategies? There are 1,000's of agents and all of them are different.

This was a message our agent sent us (from sellers agent):
Just wanted to let you know that despite our best efforts to make a deal the sellers are not willing to except a price of $700,000. There were no other offers so it's not about that it's about the fact that they feel that they can get more for the property and I do not disagree with that statement so l'm sorry we are going to send over a rejection from the sellers and maybe it'll be revisited. I think if they had met him at the 738500 or somewhere even close to that we might've been able to make a deal but at 700k is a no-go”

I think negotiations are done for now.
Our agent isn’t really a “deal maker” who provides much in the way of negotiation options…