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All Forum Posts by: Thomas Kritko

Thomas Kritko has started 0 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

well I'm certainly happy to hear of the early successes of those who chimed in.  I'm curious as to where you Guys found your first properties?

 I'm actually really considering section 8 housing due to returns on the surface.  You don't get better roi -- build a nice monthly income with a couple props in this realm and then move on to a "better" area to play the lower returns hopeful appreciation game - or consider single family, flipping etc.  I understand some of the downsides to section 8 - but if you get good tenants in your units (you do get to pick them - a common argument for investing here )I see it  most hopefully being a relaivelycomfortable cash flow opportunity.  Section 8 vouchers can be tough to come by - violations can cause someone to lose their voucher which can onlyhelp to improve my confidence.  I just don't know anyone who has invested in this realm - a lot of the could be tenants are actually great to deal with In my experience with knowing a few rougher neighborhoods.  Certainly not afraid of it -- the government red tape is Partly a question and difficulty removing a bad tenant is probably he biggest downside - that goes for any property though.   Anyone here have any insight or think this is a good, bad, neutral idea.  comparing the calculated cash returns mAkes it look like a no brainer - won't expect much appreciation.  

Seems like a nice bed of cash coming in to use as a launch point - plus minimal cash out the door on initial purchase. Would you Rather drop 14000 on 70k at 20 % ROI or 30000 on 150k at 10% ROI?? That seems to be what I'm seeing based on mls prices.

Additionally I totally get moving into other realms of investment as just described. I give you guys credit for taking the leap and making it work for yourselves - id like to follow in your footsteps in he near future. It's a dynamic world - if I could find a 3-4 unit that cash flowed 200 a month per unit and hit a 15 plus ROI - i would jump all over it - I just only see this type of potential return (and better) in more depressed areas. Maybe i should find me a good old fashioned whole saler - (more fix and refi/rent or fix and flip) in that realm however. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks to all replying and to the originator of this thread.

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

Basically im trying to define myself a plan as you can see and zero in as i have been all over the place.  let me know where you are looking.  

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

that was entirely too long of a post - thanks for reading if you got the whole way through lol.

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

Definitely do not need to get your license.  Certainly not bad to have but not necessary in my opinion.  You can learn what you need to on your own, by talking to people, or from good real estate agents directly.  If you desire to get it by all means go for it - knowledge is power - but thats knowledge you pay for that may or may not pay off for you.  Your disposition may be to move forward with that as i believe i read in your introduction - but not needed to understand and develop some degree of comfortability.  FIrst one always going to make you a little nervous - still does for me as well.

 You need to define a goal, a budget, and learn the math.  Ive also found that it is easy to go crazy by looking at everything.  In 2016 the pittsburgh market is getting too darn expensive in the hot areas (especially east end).  I would encourage you to break it down into.

1) single or multi family

2) Buy and hold vs flip --I would definitely buy and hold if you have limited knowledge when it comes to property repairs (you can always flip later).  Learn on something thats paying you to own it.

3).  Set a budget as aforementioned

4)  decide what areas you are going to be able to buy in based on the budget.  

5) analyze those properties and neighborhoods.  Learn the neighborhoods and LEARN THE MATH like the back of your hand.  Its simple arithrimetic but often there is an angle and no prop is the same.  

6)  good beginner rule I use for myself is that for a buy and hold multi - if it needs more than 10k of work its probably not a great FIRST investment.  

This of course depends on your starting bank roll - but if its like mine (under 100k) - Im trying to put as little as possible into it on top of initial equity and fees.

this will likely chew a big hole in your ROI (now if you are looking to improve value with a cash out refi or a great prospect comes along that needs combo new plumbing, roof, windows, foundation repair, etc - well just make sure you know what youre getting into and/or have a good contractor and finger on the pulse of the market when estimating the ARV YOURSELF - couple missed items and you risk having a bad first investment and not doing it again).

 7) dont be scared be ambitious ( i should heed my own advice sometimes) 

8) define numbers goals within your target areas.  Take a look at what the average returns appear to be and set a goal for cash on cash at least.  The one percent and 2 percent rule ive never looked at ... cap rate is .. meh .. its there - what im most concerned with is the price of the home relative to comparables and cash on cash to start.   

9)  I look  the other way if it is a multi unit that is not separately metered - thats always one of my criteria here in pgh as there are a lot of older homes and a good portion you wind up worrying about who will cover utilities.  Margins are already tight enough let alone taking on a triplex gas bill.   There are exceptions - some properties are set up such that installing a few electric baseboard heaters might be possible to save on the gas bill - but i would still just shy away if not metered separately at the outset.  

10) do shop for a lender and compare (usually pretty standard but there can be some fluctuation) - dont fall for the ones that sound too good to be true - there are gimmicks out there - big bank or reputable broker should do you fine.  Compare origination fee and rate mostly.  Most other costs are relatively standard I believe.  

11) buy at market rates - dont splurge in a market because numbers look good - we are more than likely going to see balking in prices - if not a little recession in the next few years - would suck to own something you couldnt sell becuase you bought the most expensive property at the top - goes back to being mindful of your market.  In this realm you might be overpaying for section 8 housing based on returns as a good example - so just be mindful of prices and comps once you identify target areas. 

ANyway that is  my beginners guide written by a beginner but is basically what i look for.  It is just the way i have started to think about a first investment having looked for a while now. Start small and start simple - hit a good solid single that pays you every month - I will aim for bigger returns through flipping or refinancing once i have a steady stream of cash to help offset the risk those things bring.  This is by far profound and i knew this at the outset of my journey - but its easy to get distracted along the way.  So this is what im trying to stick to as of now. 

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

Of course there is always prospecting outside the city - but you need to start at home and manage things yourself.  Establish a network and see where things take you.  I have a very small network thus far. The more the merrier so anyone from our area (or anywhere) willing to add anything please feel free.  

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

Friendship Park.  I have been mulling around for the past few months looking to purchase my first investment property.  I bounced back and forth from multi-unit to single family needing some work and back to multi unit.  It has all been a learning experience and I feel seasoned enough in my knowledge to know a deal when i see it.  I do see multi-unit property as the most probable way for me to start. 

That said - I want 2 or 3 homes under my belt in the next 2 years.  Maximal cash flow is crucial to me to provide a stable springboard for further investment. I think my first purchase will be in a low to low-middle income neighborhood in the pittsburgh area.  Other areas just do not provide the returns from what I have seen - prices too high and roi to low - want to be able to parlay returns  (still have a slow and steady mindset but maximizing cash flow is priority to me for early stage of investing).      

Post: New To Real Estate from Pittsburgh

Thomas KritkoPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 6

Hello Matt,

Also a new investor here in the pittsburgh area.  Margins are quite tight in the multi unit realm and ive been having a battle finding a good one - this site opened my eyes a bit - but have been battling to find a good deal.  The more people you network with the better off you are - especially inside of our own pittsburgh market.  Just saying hello - let me know if youd like to chat sometime.  I would be interested in hearing about how your experience in your search and bouncing ideas around. My name is Tom.

Be well.