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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: Wholesale Central Florida

Account ClosedPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Lake Mary, FL
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @John Kent:

@Account Closed it sounds like you asked the attorney to draft the contract for you and the attorney has addition terms to providing the service. They quoted fees which are consistent with an attorney drawing up a contract. They may have misunderstood your question in that you were not asking for their services. What you can do legally and what the attorney is willing to do is not always the same. If you are asking for legal advice make sure they know you are asking for the advice as the service. 

Consequently, you can find the Far Bar contract online in PDF form by Googling "Florida Far Bar Contract". Any half decent Florida real estate lawyer will be able to help you with the Far Bar Contract if you have issues. Using an unfamiliar contract off of the internet makes things a little more difficult if you run into problems of a legal nature. 

There is a check box on the contract to indicate that it is assignable. If at the completion of the transaction the underlying mortgage and any other liens are satisfied then the buyer should be able to acquire marketable title.

Purposely clouding a title can get you into big trouble and is unlikely to be the best solution for a wholesale transaction. 

With Land Contracts the Due on Sale clause is a valid concern when there is an underlying mortgage. Most Due on Sale clauses will be trigger-able by the use of a Land Contract.

" If at the completion of the transaction the underlying mortgage and any other liens are satisfied" can you please elaborate?

And can I do an exact wrap of an existing mortgage with a seller and keep his mortgage in place for 5 years, then assign that wrap to a buyer for a high premium, say $10-15k down? My attorney was flabbergasted by this question and appauled I would think to do such a thing. 

Post: Wholesale Central Florida

Account ClosedPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Lake Mary, FL
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

 Hello all!

After marketing for sellers I have quite a few highly motivated sellers lined up in the Volusia and Orange county part of Central Florida. After speaking with my Attorney I am saddened by what she told me and find it hard to believe this is common practice for real estate investors in the Florida market, the following is a run down of what my attorney told me and if you guys could chime in and say better alternatives that would be great. I have quite a few 50/50 deals lined up if any central florida investor wants to link arms.

Can I assign a contract to a seller for an assignment fee;

Attorney: "Yes, however on the FARBAR I must edit the contract and allow for assignments, each property I must check to see if the property is free and clear as you can not assign properties with existing mortgages in place. I must also input the address of the property each time you wish to tie up a house, this is a $350 cost for the purchase contract and a $75 cost for the assignment form."

This must be some sick joke.

Can I tie up a house that has an existing mortgage in place and use a Land Contract to cloud title to avoid a due-on-sale clause and then assign the contract to a buyer for a large premium down, which would include closing cost, relocation cost of seller and my profit?

Attorney: "Avoiding a due-on-sale clause is not possible in Florida, house must be free and clear in order to assign to an end buyer"

I have heard otherwise on BiggerPockets.

I have a house worth 120k ARV, my dads girlfriend is a certified appraisal and said its worth 120k ARV, However seller owes 45k on the house, seller wants out of the house ASAP. According to my attorney this is a dead deal and I can't do anything with it legally in Florida. I say otherwise! I refuse to believe my current Attorney and will continue to ask other attorneys in my area about wholesaling and seller financing. If theres an investor for Central Florida and wants to do 50/50 splits lets connect.