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All Forum Posts by: Terry Dunlap

Terry Dunlap has started 6 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: Would You Buy for Cashflow Only?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Joe Villeneuve Done! Sent PM. Thank you.

Post: Would You Buy for Cashflow Only?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

Question for you @Joe Villeneuve based your reply: if I secure the homes for cash, and they throw off decent cashflow, I should be able to refi down the road to rinse and repeat the process, yes? One item I see quite often in books: refinancing a SFR held by an LLC is typically difficult. Any experience there you can share?

Or anyone else can share?

Post: Would You Buy for Cashflow Only?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

The area: Sandusky, OH 44870.

The local economy: tied to the seasonal fluctuations of Cedar Point, an amusement park. Most major blue-collar jobs have left leaving a primarily services-based economy around Cedar Point tourists.

Background: I grew up there (live in Maryland now) and have seen my childhood neighborhood get taken over by the Firelands Regional Medical Center and have seen the surrounding area properties fall into disrepair. I have a team in place: agent, prop mgmt company, handyman, lawyer, et al. 

When I buy, I pay cash. I'm fortunate enough to own a couple tech companies that permit me that option. My goal is to find income producing assets for retirement. My two options today are between triple tax-free bond funds from T Rowe Price or incoming producing properties.

I have found a number of cash flowing properties that beat the tax-free return from the bond funds. My CPA created a spreadsheet for me that will calculate the return on these properties by taking into account my current tax rate (the highest) and the tax savings from the depreciation on these properties. When comparing the two returns, I want as close to apples vs apples as possible.

In light of all that, would anyone invest in cash flowing rentals when the potential appreciation is little to non-existent given the goal is cashflow only?

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

UPDATE: Received financials.

Expenses for 415/417 Huron Avenue:

Columbia Gas $1933.06

Ohio Edison $1631.28

Water & Sewer $1558.05

Trash Removal $ 350.00

Rental Registration $ 275.00

Property Taxes $1659.50

Property Insurance $1478.00

Total Expenses: $8884.89

Gross Rents: $35,640.00

Less 10% Vacancy Rate ($3,564.00)

Net: $32,076.00

Less Expenses: (8885.00)

Cash flow before Depreciation $23,191.00/12=$1932.58 per month

Purchase Price $149,900. Everything is done on this one!


I asked for a breakout of what tenant and landlord pay. Here was his reply:

Landlord pays: Water/Sewer, Gas, Electric and trash. Tenants pay for phone, internet and cable TV.

Okay... I'm new to this land lording gig, but I don't recall seeing or reading about landlords paying for practically everything! That seems odd to me.

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Encarnacion Gutierrez If I receive the full financials and the numbers make sense, those will be my next steps.

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Caleb Heimsoth I agree. I'm actually chatting with another realtor at this moment about this exact issue!

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Ben Zimmerman It's a flat 10% of monthly rent from these guys.

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Lynnette E. No. They're definitely multi-family properties. Well... at least one is. I can see that one on Google Maps and Street View! :-)

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

Thanks @Bjorn Ahlblad! Definitely don't need a smack in the face being an OOS investor!

Post: Does this sounds sketchy to you?

Terry DunlapPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olney, MD
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 10

@Aaron Stuiber There is no WAY I would even consider this property without FULL financials. And he knows that! :-)