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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 22 times.

I am about to put an offer in for a duplex in Austin and my lender informed me that I would have to have a rental lease agreement showing the arrangement is in place for at least $1700 rent for my tenant (because I am using the projected rental income as part of my loan) BEFORE CLOSING.

(Currently 1 tenant there on a “month to month” lease for $1450 which is too low for me to qualify). 

So when I don’t even own the house, I have to go take pictures of the inside and have a listing up to find someone and vet within 30 days/before closing??

Is that true??? I was hoping to use the vacant unit for Airbnb or mid term rentals instead…

Post: $500k Preapproval- Austin TX House Hack Duplex POSSIBLE?

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Quote from @Joe Scaparra:

@Account Closed. Howdy! Let's keep it SIMPLE! Depending where you are at in life will dictate what steps you should take! I get the sense that you are just starting to think about INVESTMENT real estate and would like to participate in this fast moving market. Days in Austin where you put down 3.5% to 5% and CASH FLOW positive DO NOT EXIST IN THE AUSTIN MSA. However, that does not mean you can't play in this environment. Believe it or not you still can find 1% deals in the Austin MSA. I have a family member closing on a duplex that is listed on the MLS NOW. 270k and the projected gross rents 3k per month with absolutely NO repairs needed. But that is still requiring 20% down to cash flow positive.

Forget that for a moment and let's focus on you.  If you are renting now then your focus should be what steps can I take to better my CURRENT situation.  For example if you are renting for $1500 a month, then you are a negative cash flow of $1500 per month.  I feel there are deals out there that if you were to buy a small multifamily you could house hack your eventual cash flow would/could be less than negative $1500 per month.  If that were the case YOU WOULD BE WINNING!  In an apartment you get NOTHING for your negative cash flow.  In your, lets say duplex, you might be negative, hell lets just say you are $1500 negative but what you are NOW getting is principal buy down on mortgage, appreciation potential on entire building worth, Locked in fixed cost (minus increases in taxes) and the PEACE of MIND that your landlord cannot raise your RENT!   You have to learn how to walk before you run.

Buying a duplex in Austin, MAKES more sense for a renter than a pure investor today!  Improve your current situation and then re-evaluate.  Imagine you bought a duplex two years ago for 350k and rents were 1k a side then.  Now the duplex is worth 450k (was 500k, eight months ago so what) and rents for $1500 per side.  If that were you, you would have 100k in equity you could find a way to get out and buy another duplex.  I nor anyone else knows for sure what the future is but be smart and don't let your eyes get too big!   Slow and steady wins the race, just ask the turtle.


Wow, Thank you!!

Post: $500k Preapproval- Austin TX House Hack Duplex POSSIBLE?

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Quote from @Ryan Kelly:

@Account Closed the biggest challenge you are having is using an FHA loan, which means you are going to end up with a huge mortgage payment. The traditional investor would be putting 25% down to purchase a multifamily property, which would help lower the debt expenses and get the property closer to break even on cash flow. However, if this is your first property, the FHA loan is a great tool to help you purchase your first home. As others have said, you want to focus on how much of your monthly living expenses you can reduce with a house hack, and then focus on making the property a profitable rental in the future. AS @Jordan Moorhead mentioned, you could focus on creating a STR or MTR in the other unit to boost cash flow, and even have a roommate in your own unit to add even more income. Think creatively and don't stop from getting started!


 Thank you! Definitely will become more creative!

Post: Local Austin House Hackers

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Hi Devin! Where can I view this reel series?

Post: $500k Preapproval- Austin TX House Hack Duplex POSSIBLE?

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Quote from @Aaron Gordy:

If you are talking about the one on nicole, be wary. That street is notorious for foundation problems. There is usually lagging rent with many rentals that you will find. Its costly for the small landlord to have vacancy and usually will keep rents lower than market to incentivize the tenant to stay. You can always increase the rent to market rent but beware that the tenant will have less of an incentive to stay. 

Define house hacking for us. House hacking seems to mean different things.  Will you be renting per room on both sides? How about str or mtr on one side? 


House hacking either living on one side of the duplex and rent out the other side with a long term tenant. Or single family home with MTR or LTR. 

Where do you list your MTR? On Airbnb or Kopa? 

Post: $500k Preapproval- Austin TX House Hack Duplex POSSIBLE?

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Quote from @Ryan Thomson:

@Account Closed if you wait for cashflow you may never own a home and all of the other financial returns that owning a home provide! Don't make it all about cash flow. 

House hacking is tough to cashflow in year one (with current house price run-ups and interest rates) for a couple reasons:

1. You are living in one of the rentable units

2. You are only putting 5% down so your loan amount is much larger and therefore your mortgage payment.

Get into a house hack that will allow you to avoid throwing rent money away every month. You know this, but don't forget all the other ways real estate makes you money. Paying down your mortgage and owning an asset that will appreciate over the long term.


 Yes thank you! I meant more so that after a year if I were to move out and have two tenants on each side and self manage and refinance to a low interest rate.. I would still negative cash flow of around $500 a month. That just does not seem like a good deal and I have been seeing a lot of this around the Austin Area… the total rent is maybe half of the listing price. 

Post: 1% "Rule" Still Valid in Texas?

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Quote from @Eliott Elias:

You won't find the 1% rule, and when you do it's most likely a piece of junk. Remove the 1% rule from your calculations, there are so many more ways to analyze property. 

That is what I’ve been seeing so far- what other way do you recommend for filtering through 100s of properties before doing a full analysis on specific ones.

Post: 1% "Rule" Still Valid in Texas?

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Quote from @Robert Finn:

I'm looking at small multifamily that have had longer days on market with an opportunity to value add. If you can include good terms within the offer (quicker close, shorter inspection period, pay closing fees, etc.) you may be able to get the purchase price much lower depending on the seller situation. Also consider multiple strategies (short term, mid term) on one unit and LTR the other. I'm currently using that strategy and have been exceeding the 1% rule consistently. 


 Thanks! Are you self managing these properties?

Post: 1% "Rule" Still Valid in Texas?

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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Account Closed, It sounds like you are at least trying to use the 1% rule correctly. So, you are on the right track!

The 1% rule is best use to filter properties so that you focus on ones that have a reasonable potential to cash-flow. Its a time saver.

So, you are finding that at full asking price very few properties are 1% properties and I'm sure that is common in many markets. I would loosen the criteria a little and look at properties that are .9% or .8% BECAUSE a deal isn't what a seller offers its what YOU make of it!

For example, you might see a duplex advertised at $200k with rents of $1800 (aka .9%). Looking at the listing casually you might see that rents are $300 under market and furthermore with some cosmetic upgrades could go up an additional $300. That means even if you paid full asking price of $200k that after a light rehab you would expect $2400 in rents or 1.2% which in many markets is good.

If you can see a deal in your head at 1% or greater then its worth diving deeper to analyze it. So, if I saw a listing as I just described I would start plugging in numbers because taxes, utilities, etc all vary. So, even though it meets 1% doesn't mean its a "good deal".

On the flip side if you see a .9% listing where the place looks completely maximized you can just ignore the listing unless you feel you can negotiate a lower price. 

Thank you! Great insight 

Post: 1% "Rule" Still Valid in Texas?

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I am trying to do initial filtering with 1% rule or test in Texas and virtually nothing meets it. Anyone else discovering this as well.. how are you buying investment properties right now especially with current interest rates that cash flow?