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All Forum Posts by: Terrance Thames

Terrance Thames has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Insurance Recommendation in Saint Louis, MO

Terrance ThamesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

@Zack P. Nice. I grew up in Ballwin and went to High school in Chesterfield (Marquette). So I did the exact same thing as you did. I am not currently flipping in LA, only in St. Louis but would love to connect!

Post: Insurance Recommendation in Saint Louis, MO

Terrance ThamesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

Reach out to:

Chris Riordan

Weiss Insurance

683 Trade Center Blvd Suite 100

Chesterfield MO 63005

(636)534-7229 Direct

He’s been very good to me and has a ton of experience to walk you through the ins and outs of the insurance game. I also have rentals in south city St. Louis and live in LA so it’s always nice to see a fellow investor from Ca investing in St Louis!

Post: Anderson Business Advisors

Terrance ThamesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

@Bob Smith Glad to help. This is how the tax/book keeping side works. You buy a package of 160 "credits" (I think there is also a version where you can get 320 credits but I didn't do this at first and I am unsure of the cost at the moment) which you can use whenever you want for however you want. Depending on who you are talking with, they pull from those credits at an hourly rate:

Book keepers pull 7 credits per hour

Tax Preparers pull 10 credits per hour

CPA/Attorneys pull 20 credits per hour

They will set up everything up for you without using any of those credits. (a side note you have to ask them for build a spreadsheet that shows you how much you have used and what's left because they have a glitch in their system where they don't automatically do this) Quick books online which comes with a discount from QBO due to their relationship with Anderson. They will even allow you to use your credits for them to train or teach their system to an accountant that you choose to bring in which is what I initially planned on doing. (That accountant advised me to use the plus version online "$35 per month per entity" because of it's capabilities for class and location codes. I recommend using class codes, and setting up a class code for every property you buy and/or sell. When class codes are enabled, every transaction can be assigned to a class code and from that information, you can run a Profit and Loss Statement not just as a total aggregate number but broken down by each property. That way you can see the individual profitability for each of your projects and compare which ones did better and which did worse. Based on what you said about multiple entities this may be of a benefit to you)

In terms of level of detail. They seem to have an incredible amount of detail and specificity that they will provide. In my walkthrough set up meeting with the book keeping supervisor and my personal assigned book keeper, they walked me through QBO that they had already set up (they are very systematic in their set up and process and it's very easy to follow), they showed me how to use it (or another accountant if I wanted), they had everything from my property, bank accounts etc in and walked me through. They were under the impression that I was bringing my own accountant so they left some things off, but when I told them that I was going to use them they quickly said that they were going add more detail, and complete everything for my review. I also asked as I mentioned above about the ability to build out custom reports based on the financial information that they are getting and the supervisor said that she would work on some custom reports for me. (She hasn't delivered that yet so I'm not sure how helpful that they will be just yet). But all and all they seem very detail and flexible to my needs and are willing to custom tailor what you want within the guidelines of their package. 

To answer your last question they do not have different charges for multiple entities. But they bill according to those credit rates above so if it takes them a super long time to do your book, my sense is that they will use more credits to do them. Just to give you a sense of how fast they use that time, I gave them 3 entities and everything that I have mentioned here over the last month cost me 3.22 billable hours or 22.54 credits. (137.46 credits left).

Now I forgot to mention this but I haven't even touched the taxes side of things. They first will do a thorough audit of your last 2 years of taxes for ALL entities and then walk you through where things are good and where you may be at risk and then create a tax strategy moving forward. Their tax manager literally spent 2.5 hours in a deep dive and answered all of my questions (and I had a TON) and I learned an enormous amount from that conversation. That doesn't count against your credits. If you do platinum like I did they will put all notes in a "box" file on their platform, upload all of your entity information and you have lots of legal forms to use. You can have unlimited conversations with their legal team, unlimited email responses from their tax team and a Sr. Advisor or higher to bring it all together in a cohesive strategy. Since they have everything in-house, they will ask you how you want to handle your taxes and if you choose to do them with them the book keepers will transfer all of your financials over to them and they fill out (or you) a form that goes with it and then everything is done at that point. You use your credits for them to do your taxes at the rate I gave you above.

I hope that answers everything!

Post: Anderson Business Advisors

Terrance ThamesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

I will add my 2cents as well. I joined their platinum membership and their tax/Book keeping package. One thing that I haven't seen here from other clients is that you can actually negotiate the expensive rates down from what they are at retail. I took their business entity strategy and went to a different attorney to get them all set up for much less because they were a little too expensive in that arena. (However, in retrospect, now that I see how they set everything up and organize it on the site I think that it would have been worth the extra cost to hit the easy button). They still were helpful and are helping me get to the level of organization that I would have had had I had them create my entities so it's not terrible by any stretch of the imagination. When I set up platinum, I negotiated the tax/book keeping package for $2500 vs. $4000 which will last me at least couple of years based on how they set it up and the platinum membership for $500 vs the $2,500 that they advertise. They also let me make payments on that all in $3,000. I have at this point had extensive conversations with the business strategist, the CPA tax manager, the head of book keeping, and a point of contact that helps navigate you around to where you need to go and I have only once received somewhat conflicting advice on the overall strategy, which to me isn't too bad for having that many people collaborating from all different angles. Last what really surprised me on the accounting/book keeping side was if you ask them they will not only help you from a book keeping standpoint, but they will actually help you pull custom reporting from QBO to analyze your financials like a corporate controller would. That was actually sold me.

Outside of one situation when it took a bit longer than I was told to set up all of the book keeping and Quickbooks online, they have been super prompt and responsive to my questions (which was a LOT).

I hope that helps!

@Frankie Woods Absolutely and thank you!

Hey everybody, thanks for all of your responses. I appreciate the feedback. I'm new to this world and I find myself constantly in "solution" mode. Most of the time there seems to be a creative solution that I haven't yet thought of that someone else has. Including the solution that led me into this real estate world much earlier than I thought I would be able to. And sometimes there isn't a solution other than the obvious and that is sometimes the way the cookie crumbles. 

Thanks again!

Hey Everybody!

I have a lending question. I am in my first flip project as an out of state investor living in Los Angeles and flipping in St Louis. I was born and raised here so I know the market and have a strong network of other investors who have been helping me get started. However, because of my experience level in combination with being an out of state investor, I had to use Hard Money to fund the project with rather unfavorable terms. The primary challenge of getting funding was overcoming the risk that a lender was taking on through an out of state investor. 

If I was local I would have been able to gain funding through a portfolio lender which would have yielded much better terms. So I am looking to find a way to show residency locally in order to show portfolio lenders for my next project without having to actually buy a multifamily rental using one of the units for my office (As I know other investors that have accomplished this by doing that). 

So far what I have explored is that I looked into getting a MO state ID to show residency here to lenders. I do have proof of residency that I can show in order to get an ID but the state of MO would force me to surrender all foreign ID of CA.  I could do that and then go back to CA and get a CA state ID. That however, would have implications on both car insurance and another unrelated business that I have based out of CA. Nor does it address the address that shows up on my personal taxes and at the moment my CA business that isn't real estate related. Also I have been looking for portfolio lenders that are ok with lending to out of state investors on flip properties and I haven't been able to find one yet because that would probably be the easiest solution. (if anyone knows of any please let me know!)

So I am wondering is there any other solution that any of you know that would allow me to prove local residency to lenders other than what I have mentioned? Or do I just need to bite the bullet and have my next property not be a flip but a rental with me in one of the units?

Thanks in advance!

Hello community,

I am in need of a solid General contractor that can run full gut rehab from start to finish in the St Louis area. I would prefer it if they had extensive experience working with investors vs only on the retail side of things. Anyone have any good recommendations?