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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Queen

Tanner Queen has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Infinite Banking concept

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

@Kristopher Kyzar you park your $ in a 4% and lend out similar to hard money at 12%?

Post: Due Diligence Checklist - Independent for Seller / buyer

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Absolutely correct. Commercial specific to retail / office / flex / ind where there could have been ground contamination.

Post: Due Diligence Checklist - Independent for Seller / buyer

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

I have been trying to compile the most comprehensive commercial due diligence for each side, seller & buyer, and have a lot of information to be thorough yet efficient. Is there anyone out there that has a checklist that is independent to each side? I am getting bogged down with TOO much information at this point. Thank you!

Post: Due Diligence Checklist - Independent for Seller / Buyer

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

I have been trying to compile the most comprehensive due diligence for each side, seller & buyer, and have a lot of information to be thorough yet efficient. Is there anyone out there that has a checklist that is independent to each side? I am getting bogged down with TOO much information at this point. Thank you! 

Post: Sale Leaseback Strategies and Comparison

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

Thanks @Dave Foster but we aren't there yet! working hard to get there though. Did you have any additional thoughts on the metrics of the deal, outside of the legalities of the 1031? I value your input and am all ears! 

Post: Sale Leaseback Strategies and Comparison

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

@Dave Foster - in the proposed situation he will be deeded interest in the upleg, and the LP will be with him as a TIC. I am working with our attorney to ensure that is truly the case.

The upleg for this 1031 will be roughly a 60M total equity position with about the same amount of debt; i.e. a total cap of $120m and will be using all of the proceeds. 

Post: Sale Leaseback Strategies and Comparison

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Hello All , This will be a longer and thorough read, but hopefully the love for this business will make it a shorter read. I am embarking on my 3rd sale-leaseback transaction in my career and my 5th 1031 (3 were pre-downturn). This one is slightly different. The scenario is as follows: California property and transaction. Current realty: Owner of building is right in between a colleague, acquaintance, friend, and business partner. (Somewhat complicated but a great relationship) He Bought the 23k flex building for $4.3m, 10 years ago. It’s appreciated to a market value of $7.1m and both he and I believe it has peaked. Current refi from last week consolidated 3 loans to one with CitiBank; $3,900,000 @ 4.39%. 2% prepayment penalty and not assumable. Pulled $1m out to reinvest into the business. He would like to continue to pull the appreciated equity out and roll it into a new vehicle. That new vehicle is likely to be a passive, LP position with a very strong sponsor / operator relationship I have where his money could be pulled out or reinvested after 24 months and would achieve roughly a 10% cash on cash return payable in quarterly distributions. SaleLeaseback Scenario: High net worth investor relationship of mine would like to buy the building, at the market valuation of; $7,100,000 however LOI / Offer has not been received as of yet. Current tenant would leaseback the space for a period of 5 years at $1.50 / ft / Mo; 23,500 SF. NNN - I am going to negotiate a cap on the expense pass through for property taxes to mitigate the California prop 13 tax increase; ideally getting very close to what the current tax exposure is. Commission on the sale from seller is 2% of purchase price. There will be no broker involved in the lease negotiation. It’s a very straight forward lease. I am working through my model and the keeping the best interest for my client / friend / seller keeps popping in my head. I am close to the situation and want to see him succeed but I may be just overthinking it. Is this a good deal for my client? His current annual debt service after refi is significantly lower than what his annual lease would be years 1-5 with 3% annual increases. The 1031 opportunity would allow him to pull out the $2,980,000; $3,200,000 net proceeds - ($78,000 prepay + $142,000 commission). Within this 1031 structure he would reinvest in the LP position talked about above at a, let’s say conservative 10% cash on cash. No Cap Gains. By my math it’s a good deal for him as he is essentially a wash between his lease rate and his annual distributions from reinvesting the proceeds; no capital gains exposure and has $2.98m working for him at a healthy 10%, and exposure to a sponsor relationship that has tremendous, yet intangible value. I hope I am clear in this description and am I missing something here? Thank you fellow BP community.

Post: Vacation Rental Underwriting and Business Valuation

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

@rob 

@Rob Beardsley - I have multiple spreadsheets for MF and commercial but nothing turnkey for vacation rental portfolios with uneven distributions of revenue throughout the year. 

Post: Vacation Rental Underwriting and Business Valuation

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

@Nancy Bachety

Looking for assistance on the financial model for a portfolio of vacation rentals with varied rental periods throughout the 

Post: Vacation Rental Underwriting and Business Valuation

Tanner QueenPosted
  • Investor
  • Laguna Beach, CA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

Hello all. 

I am working on creating and establishing a solid financial model to encapsulate current owned and operated SFR vacation rentals cash flows, expenses and capital improvements. I would like to also be able to indicate timeline for rentals by month i.e. our spring and fall months are peak seasons and i would like to be able to model that monthly and then roll it up to an annual number, and keep the same formatting and thought for all future projected cashflows for those current homes. In addition, I would like to also show or have the ability to continually incorporate new acquisitions of homes which will also be rolled up into the future cashflows.

At the end of the day, my goal is to effectively value the business based on a certain time period given the net cash flow of the portfolio. 

I know it seems daunting and I think Im almost there in my head but would like to get some insight or perhaps a look at someone else's efforts with the same structure. 

If you need more clarification please ask!