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All Forum Posts by: Tim Anderson

Tim Anderson has started 6 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Structural problems

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Jon Holdman:
Spend the money to fix the problem property and chalk it up as a lesson in the school of hard knocks. The problem is that buyers and their inspector will find these problems and you'll end up either having to sell at a discount or fix the problems and then fix the damage later. You'll then end up repairing damage caused by the fixes.

If I fixed the house up into 'salable' condition, without fixing the foundation, I'd be about 45 grand in on it total, so I don't mind just selling it heavily discounted rather than fixing the foundation issue and then possibly STILL not being able to sell it because of the previous damage the foundation issues have done to the flooring, plus it would have to be disclosed and that might turn a buyer off, even if there is a guarantee on it.


Is this house on a slab or on a perimeter foundation? I'm assuming a perimeter foundation with a crawl space since I don't think you could fix serious slab issues for $3000. If, and the settling is not active and isn't too serious, you may be able to shim between the foundation and the sill plates (the 2x boards that are laying flat on top of the foundation.

It's a full basement. The only visible problem to me in the basement is the front basement wall of the home is pushed in about an inch or so. There is also some water. The $3000 I spoke of was just to bring the master bedroom floor to level, not fix the foundation.

Or, is this not a foundation problem but warping of the floor joists? If so, the usual solution is to sister new, straight joists onto the existing ones. That is, nail a new, usually smaller, 2x board onto the side of the old joist so the upper edge of the new board is level. That's easy say and hard to do since you have to push up the flooring to level it out and then you'll have to repair the floor.

There's definitely foundation issues, I have no doubts about that. I just feel as though this house is too much for me and I'd like to at least try to make a couple thousand bucks on it if I can, rather than start messing with hugely expensive foundation repairs and move onto my next house having valuable lessons learned.

It isn't like the floors are going to collapse or anything, so I'm hoping someone will appreciate the discounted price and otherwise nice condition of the home(large home, newer siding, windows, 1000sq ft garage, good neighborhood, new furnace system, new stainless appliances) and we can both benefit, so to speak, from my mistake of investing in this home.

Post: Structural problems

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0

OK, so the house that I'm rehabbing has some floors that are uneven. Some are worse than others. It's made worse by the fact that there are baseboards from the boiler system still there to accentuate that there are issues. It's an older home (1937), so I'd expect some settling, but it's beyond that. The master bedroom upstairs is particularly bad. I was quoted over $3,000 to bring the upstairs master only to level. With this particular house, the numbers are going to end up being too tight for me to have work this costly done. My question is, are there any 'tricks of the trade' so to speak, to bring this floor to level on a budget? I've noticed the rooms that have tile in them(2 baths, kitchen) the sloping is either not present(doesn't make sense when it's noticable in all of the rooms without it), or the tile is doing a hell of a job in not making it noticeable.

I have a few questions here:

1) The dining room isn't completely level, would I be better off using tile or carpet? Can I even install tile on an uneven floor?
2) Can anything be done with the master bedroom upstairs, to bring the floor to a respectable level, without putting a ton of money into it?
3) I know that dark colors are a no-no when trying to sell a house, but would you go darker with paint/carpet to try to lessen the visual of the foundation issues? Or stick with antique white walls, white ceiling/trim and lighter carpet?

Any insight, as always, is very much appreciated.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by J Scott:
Is this a joke?

It's stuff like this that gives rehabbers a bad name...and pisses me off...

So, you're planning to hire an unlicensed contractor who has lied to you about being qualified to the do the work and who has a criminal record to run brand new HVAC and you don't even plan to test it when he's done?

While you may not care if his shoddy work burns down the house and kills the new owners (or the carbon monoxide does it in a less violent way), the fact that by writing this you're probably opening yourself up to being criminally accountable should be of some concern.

If this is really the attitude you're going to take towards the products you resell, might I suggest a new line of business?

It sounded a lot worse upon reading it back. What I mean is, the new homeowners will be getting an inspection done on the property before they purchased it anyway, so everything should be all good. He was also talking about a worst case scenario in terms of liability. Talking about people dying is taking it a little far, imo.


You need to lie to the permitting office and tell them that you live in that house, and they'll allow you to pull the permit as the owner occupant.

Of course, if something happens after you sell, this will be additional grounds for lawsuit or criminal action against you.


I can actually live in the house, while the work is being done if need be, that isn't a problem. It's just that, officially, it is not my primary residence.

I'm just going by what I know. I know 2 things for sure about this guy. #1) He's probably one of the chillest guys I've ever met in my life. #2) He has a conviction for drug trafficking.

So, yes, he's an extremely cool guy to talk to, BUT... it is obvious that he is capable of doing some shady stuff.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Aaron McGinnis:
You've probably been had. Ohio requires HVAC licenses for contractors working HVAC. They maintain a central database of licensees.

Go to this website - http://www.com.ohio.gov/dico/ocilb.aspx

Look up the guy. If he's licensed, he should be there.

If he isn't there, call him and ask him to explain himself and provide you a copy of his license. Not his business license, his HVAC license.

If he cannot provide it, tell him he is in breech of your contract and that he needs to refund your money. If he gives you any lip, tell him you will report him to the state and you will follow through and see to it that he is punished to the full extent of the law.

I'm afraid that if I do this, knowing what I know now (him being arrested for drug trafficking), that he may do something absolutely crazy to me, my home or my family.

I don't mind opening myself up to that sort of liability, mainly because I will most likely sell the home before I think about turning the heat on. As far as him getting injured, he does have insurance but I've also got legal documentation he signed that should keep me in the clear there.

How can I get this homeowner permit? Does it mean I can't tell anyone that I hired this work done? I have to act like it's me and a friend helping me?

Honestly, this guy is EXTREMELY cool and seems very knowledgeable about everything I ask him. He maybe lied when he absolutely shouldn't have, but he is a very good dude on a personal level. I wouldn't have a problem with him completing the work, as long as I can get a permit and not have all of his work ripped out of there.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0

First of all, as always, would like to thank you J Scott for your insight, you've helped a lot in some of my other questions I've had.

Originally posted by J Scott:
First, you learned some good lessons for the future:

- Whenever you hire a contractor, get a COPY of his license, and have his insurance company fax you a copy of his liability and workmans comp insurance (make sure you get it straight from the insurance company)

I figured if I put in the contract that he was required to be licensed, that would be enough, and since I checked on the insurance information he gave me with his insurer, I figured he was legit. Apparently I was wrong. I will not make this mistake again.


- Always have a contract for work to be done

I did do this part.


- Never pay ahead of the work that you're getting done unless you are extremely trustful of the contractor. And certainly never pay 50% upfront

Isn't it standard to provide the money for materials up front? I'd have to think the furnace and duct work would have came close to 1800 bucks.


In this case, what I would first do is ask the contractor for your money back. It's unlikely you'll get it, unless he is really is licensed in another part of the state, in which case he may be bonded and be risking his license if he tries to screw you over.

Assuming he says the money has already been spent on materials (what he will likely say), tell him you want to see what he's actually bought with the money. The key here is that you want whatever you can get your hands on, because you are going to fire him before he does any more work.

I checked the Ohio database link that was provided in the thread, he isn't licensed. I did some "google stalking" on the guy and found out he was arrested earlier this year for drug trafficking. Safe to say, I won't be getting the money back that I've already given him.


You don't need someone who lies about being licensed and about being able to pull permits to work on your job; trust me, things will only get worse, not better. And you lying to pull your own permits isn't going to make things better (plus, for HVAC work, you'd rather not have permits than have to lie to get them, in my opinion).

I normally would not lie, but I really don't want to risk them coming in and ripping out all of the work he already did and hit me with a fine on top of it. It's basically damage control at this point.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Sanjiv Neal:
did they put a cease and desist letter up or threaten to fine? I rehab in Indiana and the inspectors usually don't bother about HVAC.

I asked the HVAC guy to tell me exactly what the inspector said to him, and he responded with "not too much of anything". There was nothing posted on the property when I went to see what was going on, but he certainly could have taken whatever the inspector would have put on the house and thrown it in the trash.

I'm able to pull the permit myself for the HVAC work? Do I need to bend the truth a bit to do it, or tell them I hired someone to do the work and be 100% honest? I've never pulled a permit for anything, so I'm a little uncertain about how it works. I had assumed the people I'd hire to do the work would be doing this.

He's running all new ventilation for a 2-story 1800 sqft house that previously had a boiler system, as well as installing the new furnace that he provided, for $3700.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Emilio R:
are you going to be living in the house? A homeowner can typically pull his own permits for his personal residence. You essentially become the GC and everyone works under you. You have all the liability for the work he does. I would not recommend this unless you are well versed in construction. There should be a provision in the contract stating that if he is unable to fulfill his obligations you can fire him. Maybe another one that says if he lied about anything you can fire him. Contract is good, but I seem to find with Craigslist references are super important. You'll need to talk to your building department to find out what permits you can pull.

If that's the only way I'll be able to legally finish this job, then I will do it. Problem is, the house is not my primary residence and I have a vacant insurance policy on it currently, so I don't know how that would work.

Post: Having a Nightmare with a Contractor

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0

OK. I hired a guy off of craigslist to do my HVAC work, since the other estimates from actual HVAC companies were absolutely ridiculous, lowest quote was $8,500. I had him sign a contract stating that he was licensed, insured and would acquire all proper building permits and that he would not receive the 2nd half of his payment until it passed inspection.

After a day on the job, he sends me an e-mail saying he needs me to file a permit, due to a building inspector stopping by. I asked him what the building inspector said, to which he replied " not much of anything, just wanted to see what was going on", I don't believe it. Anyway, I refer to the contract, in which it states you (he) "will acquire any necessary building permits and the job will not be seen as complete if for any reason an inspection of the work done does not pass code;". To which he responded with that he does not have a license for our county. He says he'll take $200 off the job if I get the permit. That small amount of money isn't my concern right now. My concern is that... how the heck can I get a permit myself to do HVAC work if neither he, nor I, is licensed to do it? Is there any way that I can? He's telling me that there's a 'loop hole', where I can get the permit and say I'm having a 'friend' help with the work. This is my first time dealing with something like this and I'm getting paranoid they're (inspectors) going to rip out all of the work, and I'll still be out half of my money. Does anyone have extensive experience with building permits? What can I do in this situation?

Post: HVAC question

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Dee Xixi:
Tim, the price varies. Truly depends on the system and brand, btu and efficiency. Heat pump are a bit cheaper but if you live in a rough winter area it might not be the best idea because they are made for moderate winter. Can you do a gas furnace with ductwork and get an air cooling.

I basically just want to do the bare minimum, because it's just my personal feeling getting something like an HE furnace wouldn't see a good ROI at this price point. Am I wrong thinking this? Conservative ARV on the house is only 90k.

Post: HVAC question

Tim AndersonPosted
  • Rehabber
  • Toledo, OH
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 0

Hello. I purchased an older home for a flip (built in the 30's), it currently has an inoperable boiler system. I'm wanting to switch from that over to forced air. Needless to say, none of the ventilation is in place currently. I've gotten a couple of estimates, and the lowest is around 4 grand. This seems high to me, based on reading a couple of other threads. Being that this is my first flip, I'm very cost conscious, but at the same time I don't want to run into a headache by paying a dirt cheap price and having the work messed up.

My question to the forum is, what is a good price to pay for the new furnace/ac/new ventilation? The house is a 2 story with a full basement. 1800 square feet, 3 bed/1.5 bath.

Second question I have is, am I better off buying the furnace and AC system online and then having them install it? Or should I just go with what they provide? One would think they would mark up the equipment a good amount. Thanks very much in advance for any input.

Btw, if anyone knows a good HVAC guy in NW Ohio/SE Michigan, let me know! :wink: