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All Forum Posts by: Suyog Patel

Suyog Patel has started 3 posts and replied 9 times.

Quote from @Rene G.:

@Suyog Patel,

Has your friend considered doing their own management? It's not hard, especially if they only have one rental. Food for thought. I love being a landlord, been doing it for over ten years! 

Rene G

Hi @Rene G. Thank you, eventually this is an option that is being considered:(

Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Suyog Patel

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator.

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

Thank you very much for your explaination @Drew Sygit. This is very helpful.

Quote from @Joel Allen:

I grew up in Bloomington and still have family in the area.  Check in with @Account Closed…he’s an investor in the city and also owns a property management company (Dowd Properties).  That may be a good fit.

I had a conversation with Michael a while ago and was impressed by his experience and knowledge of the Bloomington/Normal market.


Thank you Joel. Apparently @Michael Dowd is not taking new customers :(.


Hello All,

I have a friend who is struggling to find a property management firm in Bloomington IL area. He has a single family home that needs to be rented. If anyone here on BP is from Bloomington/Normal area knows some leads that would be great!

Thanks!

Thank you everyone for your replies. I am glad to know that I understand BRRR now!

Hello all,

I tried my best to understand the BRRR strategy but not sure if this is right in my situation.

I have a first rental property purchased at 110K with a cash flow of 600. I rehabbed it with additional 15K in improvements. The ARV I expect to be in the 150K range. I used a conventional loan with 20% down.

If I refinance per the BRRR strategy for my next rental investment, I can take cash out of the refinance tapping in the equity, but does that not mean increasing the monthly mortgage on the current property?

I am trying to figure out the best minimal risk strategy for my next rental investment.

Pls see below. Does a ~18K cashout with a mortgage increase of 80.00 make sense or I am missing some thing?

Thanks in advance

Purchase price 110
Downpayment 23
Loan amount 87 mortgage: 391 @3.5%
Rehab cost 15
ARV 150 (Conservative could be higher)
Refinance amount at (70% LTV) 105
Cashout (105-87) 18
New loan amount (increase of 18k) 105 new mortgage: 471 @3.5%

Thank you in advance!

Thank you @Jonathan, Klemm @Kevin White, @Account Closed for your feedback. This is really helpful. One of my friends also on BP wants to pursue with this deal if inspection comes out clean as there is some cash flow. I had to back out this time for other potential leads for a multi family that I am looking into. Thank you all again!

Originally posted by @Kevin White:

Hi Suyog, have you been able to see the property in person or are you attempting to do long distance investing?  If the property will qualify for traditional bank financing, I've been able to get 20% down payment on single family rentals.  For me purchasing a home inspection to uncover potential issues has been well worth the few hundred dollar investment.

 Hi Kevin,

Yes, I have seen the property, it does look decent and yes, I am attempting to long distance investing. I live in Chicago and not too far from this property. I will be doing an inspection but haven't started the loan process yet, my scores are excellent and am hoping that it should be smooth unless as you point out if traditional finance is possible with such as-is properties. I will check in to that. Thank you very much for your reply!

Hello All,

First time here!. I have a lead for a single family 1100 sq ft 3 bed 2 bath 2 car garage for 110K which is being sold as is with original roof. The comps are 125 to 140K (more square footage). Has rental potential of $1200. There is some work needed to upgrade appliances, flooring and some windows. The property has been unoccupied for a long time. I am contemplating whether to go ahead with 25% down only if inspection doesn't find anything major..I am new investor and worried that I maybe overlooking anything that is obvious. Thanks for your suggestions in advance.