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All Forum Posts by: Sarah Kensinger

Sarah Kensinger has started 6 posts and replied 2203 times.

Post: Need STR insurance in Idaho (Island Park)

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Proper is really leaving that market area? Interesting there are so many STR there! Steadily is another STR insurance brokerage we have checked out. I was actually just in Island Park last May to see Tetons....loved it there, beautiful area!

Post: Just bought my first rental property - Should I do STR/MTR/LTR?

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If it was me, I would check all and any regulations with the HOA, city, county, and state first then plan accordingly. You can make quite a bit more income with a STR and mid-term, not to mention the added benefits of regular weekly cleans etc., but I'm thinking you may have regulations that only allow long term rentals.

Post: LLC for STR?

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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Well, I will say that I have chatted with several litigators and they have told me it isn't that hard to pierce the LLC. It does take time, but if the payoff is worth it, it will happen. It's the American way.


 Some of us like to beat the game in many things. And money hungry people yep, I'll educate myself with the "experts" and beat them every which way I can.

Post: Hocking hills Airbnb

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We have done some research in the Hocking Hills area but not much. It definitely seems to be a good area to have a STR especially if you have a larger house/cabin, exceptional interior design/decor that stands out, hot tub, etc. The state park is becoming well known even nationally so it's a busy place in the summer months.

One thing I wanted to share with you is stay out of Logan city limits. They have made it very difficult to have a STR in city proper. We were told that Rockbridge and parts of Lancaster are good areas to have a STR.

Post: LLC for STR?

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Quote from @Michael Baum:

An LLC is no guarantee against attorney's attacking personal assets. If there is gross negligence involved and proved, there will be blood.

 That why you protect them...in about 2-3 weeks you can look my name up and there won't be a single thing on record. I'll look broke and that I own nothing. Yes, I totally understand the negligence, obviously that is a PM and owners' responsibility which is why we have a list of things we watch for. If you're not concerned and watching out for safety issues and fixing them promptly you have no business in the industry.

May the biggerpockets forums be a place of continued learning. Because no matter how long we've been in the industry, what is the point of having a business and teaching people if we stop.

Post: Second/Vacation Home Loan and Quit Claim Deed

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Quote from @Leslie Anne Morris:

I’ve heard a change like this after closing is a ‘no no.’ Talk with your lender for specifics. You can also consider having an iron clad rental agreement and a robust commercial insurance policy to protect yourself. 

 We heard from an attorney that does our legal business things so I'm not sure.

Post: Second/Vacation Home Loan and Quit Claim Deed

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Yes, I think you can. Before we checked into creative financing, we had planned on a 2nd mortgage and then after closing we would move a property into an LLC. Double check, although I'm not sure who to point you to, since the lender might get interesting if they know things might change after closing. Maybe a lender on here can answer and let you know.

Post: LLC for STR?

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Quote from @Jay Thomas:

Adding on more real estate protection may seem like a smart move, but it could end up being a waste of time and money. After all, when you have a mortgage and insurance in place, you already have two levels of financial security. It's important to weigh the pros and cons before deciding if additional protection is really necessary.


 You can be made to sell the property and hand the money over.

Post: LLC for STR?

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It's all fun and games until there is a slip and fall, a car accident you're at fault with, or a car accident by a child that still lives at home, or as in my friend's case a freak dog bite to the wrong person (no lawsuit yet but it's hanging over their heads). Something can happen anywhere it doesn't have to be at the STR property, and if someone has the right lawyer or even insurance company all they have to do is look a person up and see what assets they have. If you're sitting pretty and it's out in the open it's going to be a fight, and sometimes a long hard one. If the LLC's, land trusts, and/or other trusts have not been set up right by an attorney that understands real estate then yes it doesn't work. Even if the owner has not followed the instructions of the attorney in how to operate or even mixes personal and business wrong it won't work. It can take a very small "mess-up" for a legal loophole to be found and everything was a waste of time.

Yes, insurance is a big deal because if you have protected your assets correctly and something happens, then the only option for the person seeking to sue is to walk away with the insurance money. Because when your name is looked up there is nothing on record and most lawyers won't dig into everything to find out what is really there. It takes a lot of time and money to do that. Anderson Advisors has been around I think 20 or so years and with all their clients they have only dealt with "digging" lawyers a handful of times. It's just not that common and walking away with insurance money is the better option to them. 

I know there's some people like someone I recently heard of, that has been in the STR industry for almost 30 years and never been sued. While others have dealt with it and sometimes more than once. My husband and I are working very hard to build a STR co-hosting company and plan on purchasing a number of properties in the future. I am not working this hard to watch a freak accident happen and someone come in and take it all. So, to spend several thousand dollars to have our assets protected and an attorney pretty much on call to help us build and advise in our business and assets protection is worth the cost!

If anyone wants to look further into this Youtube has plenty of short videos that explains most everything. Check out channels Anderson Advisors, Clint Coons, and Toby Mathis. The Book "Asset Protection for Real Estate Investors" by Clint Coons is a jem as well!

Post: LLC for STR?

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Quote from @Sundone Boutvyseth:
Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:
Quote from @Sundone Boutvyseth:

Just bought my first investment property and will be using it as an STR. I'm debating on creating an LLC when listing my rental. Has anybody else done this? I'm doing this to protect me if any accidents happen in/on the rental property and for end of year taxes. Or is this just a waste of time?

No this is NOT and I repeat NOT a waste of time. If you haven't noticed in the news STR opens the door for all sorts of lawsuits, of which I have yet to figure out why! You need to get in touch with Anderson Advisors, they are the top experts in this area and have been a huge help for us. They can help you with a specific thing or you can become a platinum member and they'll help you build long term protection on any and all properties. We are members and have felt like it was worth the money! Unlike other attorneys that think all the boxes are checked and have their clients protected, Anderson Advisors specializes in Real Estate. So, they know every in and out when it comes to protecting assets and taxes! If you're interested there are lots of educational videos on Anderson's You Tube channel.

Thank you so much for the advice. I’ll check Anderson Advisors.

 Sure! I love working with them....they have taught us so much!