Originally posted by @Greg H.:
Originally posted by @Bob B.:
What would happen if everyone walked away from their financial obligations just because they were underwater?
We don't share the appreciation on our properties with the banks and we should not walk away from them when they don't go as well as we expect.
I'm not saying you are less than honorable, but foreclosure should be the last thing suggested.
The OP appears to have done everything. He could have walked away when he owed $100,000+ and the house next door sold for $4,500
Since he purchased in 2006, he has easily paid $10,000+ in MIP(Mortgage Insurance Premiums) and probably $1000s in above market interest to the lender.
Millions have walk away from homes while doing much less so let's not pass judgment. And no, I have very rarely borrowed money in my life and have not been foreclosed on
Thanks. I would like to believe I have done everything I can to NOT walk away from my obligations. My credit score is high because I always DO pay my bills, and have never been delinquent on an account in my life. At the end of the day though I have a family, and I am not exactly going to sell off our current home and put us on the street because I really want to pay back the bank. And just for the record, we may not share the appreciation on our properties but that certainly doesn't mean banks are eating all the costs when things go south. In case people have forgotten, when banks go under taxpayers like myself bail them out. I'm not the type to use that as an excuse to not pay my bills, but please don't try to make it out like banks are some innocent victims that wouldn't dare put their burdens on others when things don't work out.
Back on topic though, while I am willing to look at all possibilities, I really don't think my property manager is the issue. She has been pretty good to me, she has been the one covering the cost of the expensive repairs as it is and letting me pay her back in payments interest free. The house is just in terrible shape, our first realtor took us for a ride.
The front porch was leaning badly and sinking into the ground. She was concerned not only that it was a safety hazard which could get a sued, but also it was starting to come down and if it fell it would have torn the front awning down with it. This is a photo before it got really bad, and you can see it leaning in the bottom right. So $6,000 later we replaced it.
porch now
Here are the most recent photos she sent of the roof.
I'll be honest I have no idea how it got that bad, it was in good shape in when we moved in 2008. Bad storms I'm guessing.
Here's just a few of the basement photos she sent
I don't think she is wrong about any of the repairs being necessary, I just can't afford them. And that's the issue. I would just leave tenants in the home until I pay off enough of the loan to sell it, but the tenants are complaining and at some point here I won't even be able to have renters, and the home is only going to decrease in value as it falls apart.
The $60,000 quote came from a market analysis the property manager had done on the home, and it is right in there with every AP like zillow etc (I know they aren't typically accurate, but the market analysis should be). And in the state the home is in now I doubt it could even be sold for the $60,000. There's just no way around it, in 11 years all we have done is lose money on the house.
Thanks for all the help. I will PM the address to the Lansing guys and see what they think. At this point it looks like a real estate attorney is my best bet.