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All Forum Posts by: Stone Timber

Stone Timber has started 2 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Elimination of Curry odors?

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Stephen E.:

I decided to eliminate the Indian applicants. I was unsure of the curry issue but there were posts here and on some realtors' websites that worried me. Stories of houses being impossible to sell because of the persistent curry odor. This is a nice unit, freshly renovated with all new flooring and paint. I can't afford to let it be ruined with obnoxious odors. Secondly, and perhaps even more troublesome, the tenant was difficult during the screening process. He objected to my need to see tax documents to verify income and said he was not comfortable if I did not believe he could pay rent. I explained that this was a normal part of the screening process but he was resistant. I ignored signals like this during the application process for what are now my worst tenants. They pay on time but they are very irritable and difficult to deal with. I don't need difficult tenants. So I have decided to keep the place vacant. The Indian tenants would have moved in this weekend and paid February rent of $1,200 so I am losing that. But I don't want to risk damages to the unit and potentially difficult tenant relations. So I will keep looking.

 Wow....

Post: Investing with debt?

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @JD Martin:

I don't think you are in a good position to be an investor. The only debt that makes sense from a financial point of view is that which has a return greater than the cost of the debt. A small mortgage on a great cash-flowing rental. College tuition in a high-demand, high-salary field that denies entry without it. Debt for cars, feel-good degrees, vacations, and other niceties are financial folly, and if that's what your debt encompasses you are not prepared to be a real estate investor. 

 'feel-good degrees'??

Post: Investing with debt?

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:

What folks call "investing" here on BP is not investing, most are operators, that means most of their money comes from operating and dealing in real estate, not buying it and holding it. The definition of investing was posted on BP and the poster couldn't even read the definition properly but gave it a twist to allow someone like a wholesaler to call themselves an investor. It's purely an ego, marketing aspect of with no money operators calling themselves investors. No, I'm not off topic.

 One of the best posts ever. Your comments on here have become like the Holy Grail for me and I wish I knew this back in the late 90s when the market was very similar to what we have today.

A lot of 'investors' do not treat this as a business - with all the necessary disciplines required - and with the first windfall of cash, they (myself included) start to believe that they have the real estate 'thing' covered.  There is no attempt to apply any lessons learned, scale the business, or at least put in place a strategy that would repeat this success and pass on the knowledge to others.

Post: Investing with debt?

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12

I kind of look at this totally different these days because I have been on both sides.  There are however a number of questions that need to be answered.

First, if you were to pay just the minimum on all your debt, how much would you have to invest?

Can you and your partner SERIOUSLY discipline yourselves for the next one year?

Do you have the time, energy, and focus to invest in real estate?

Will explain further after you respond 

Originally posted by @Zulf H.:
Originally posted by @Stone Timber:

Chicago is missing from the list.  Realtytrac had a survey recently that showed 5 Chicago zip code with the highest returns for property flips - multiunits included.  Chicago should be on this list.

Hi @Stone Timber:

Could you list the 5 zip codes you mention. I have been investing in Chicago and would like to keep these in mind for future purchases.

I was also surprise not to see Chicago on the list, however I hear there will be a hike in taxes which may effect the profitability.

 My good man 

Here you go:

http://www.realtytrac.com/news/home-prices-and-sales/realtytrac-q3-2015-home-flipping-report/

Zip CodeCityCountyState Q3 2015 Home FlipsPct of Total SalesYoY Pct Change Q3 2015 Avg Days to Flip Q3 2015 Flipping Avg Gross ProfitQ3 2015 Avg Gross ROI
21229BaltimoreBaltimore CityMaryland1612.2%10.7%238 $ 67,517136.0%
33603TampaHillsboroughFlorida2819.3%86.7%172 $ 103,150130.2%
60652ChicagoCookIllinois1711.1%58.0%214 $ 106,036120.4%
60402BerwynCookIllinois2210.7%188.2%220 $ 125,450120.3%
60629ChicagoCookIllinois228.0%6.7%217 $ 106,197115.2%
33803LakelandPolkFlorida118.9%101.1%207 $ 60,641106.4%
60638ChicagoCookIllinois189.7%58.6%234 $ 123,009104.6%
60634ChicagoCookIllinois2510.0%46.3%225 $ 157,379103.8%
21207Gwynn OakBaltimoreMaryland3227.1%108.6%209 $ 96,75497.8%
17331HanoverYorkPennsylvania179.2%100.6%186 $ 79,45597.5%
37043ClarksvilleMontgomeryTennessee186.3%-10.8%186 $ 98,61795.1%
32205JacksonvilleDuvalFlorida2815.1%86.9%177 $ 62,32994.7%
37209NashvilleDavidsonTennessee189.2%22.6%203 $ 131,07593.3%
33713Saint PetersburgPinellasFlorida2712.6%-3.4%170 $ 71,50793.2%
44060MentorLakeOhio144.8%32.2%230 $ 64,17391.4%
23701PortsmouthPortsmouth CityVirginia1012.3%188.9%241 $ 66,22189.1%
70058HarveyJeffersonLouisiana1712.1%189.4%193 $ 65,92788.0%
33755ClearwaterPinellasFlorida2014.0%67.8%190 $ 77,52187.6%
33952Port CharlotteCharlotteFlorida3010.9%63.1%219 $ 65,96887.0%
20748Temple HillsPrince George’s CountyMaryland



1321.0%85.2%164

Chicago is missing from the list.  Realtytrac had a survey recently that showed 5 Chicago zip code with the highest returns for property flips - multiunits included.  Chicago should be on this list.

Post: Acceptable ROI for Investors

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12

Hi All

Relatively new to BiggerPockets but been in and out of real estate for quite some time and still looking for answers on how best to do things right - this time.

I am Chicago-based and over the past year I picked up five rehab properties for cash (four multi-units and one single family house).  All are in need of serious repairs, and even though I paid cash for them; holding costs and inactivity over the period is beginning to give me a bit of concern.  I have basically used my income and savings to fund these deals plus the holding costs, and even though I can take my time and have the rehab/s completed at a leisurely pace or so, that is the slow-slow approach and isn't quite the plan I had in mind from the beginning.  I want to do at least 30 of these by the end of the year and I know it is VERY possible.

There are plenty of examples on BiggerPockets about how rehabs have been completed using partnerships with other people/investors/friends/family members etc., and I am thinking of reaching out to some friends to invest with me but my concern (or question) is: how much does one offer these type of investors?  5%, 10%, 20%??  The simple answer is probably something like 'it depends on what you agree with the investors', but I know there is probably a thousand other different answers or solutions from people who have done this over and over again.

Any advice or suggestions will be very much appreciated.

StoneTimber

Post: Help.. Struggling to rent first investment property

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Steven Wiltz:

 You have the bad-assest name ever! 

As has been said, if a rent survey shows that your ask is reasonable for the area, stick to your guns. A vacant unit is better than a bad tenant - waay less expensive. 

 Thanks.  :-)

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Kimberly H.:

@Shawn Ackerman - My reason as follows:

Credit score 556 (not a deal breaker if it was medical bills)

She co-signed for a car and has her own. 30-60 day late payments on the co-signed car (total car payments $750), if shes stuck with the co-signed vehicle.  

Employed for 9 month - not a huge deal, but a factor.  She can still be on probation. Major hospital and I know the rules.

Child Support was included in 3x salary and her children are 16-17.  Not much longer for child support (not judging, but they didn't appear to be college bound)

Bankruptcy (which isn't a deal breaker, but late payments after discharge). That tells me that she's not trying to rebuild her credit.

She moved addresses 2 times in 3 years. Seems odd when you have teenage children.

That was too many red flags.

$750 for car payments?!?!?!?!

Post: What would you do with $200k in cash?

Stone TimberPosted
  • Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Tony Kogan

To maximize your return?  Buy a foreclosure on the court step.  Buy some tools if needed.  Fix it and sell it just below market value.  Should be within 6 months.  

I would spend the next 6 months doing the exact same thing.  Shoot for at least a 60% return.

 Totally agree 1,000%!