Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Steve Walko

Steve Walko has started 1 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Should I analyze deal as 100% occupied?

Steve WalkoPosted
  • New Paltz, NY
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 10

I think you'd generally want to analyze the deal as fully occupied, as you will not be living there forever I presume, and want to make sure the deal makes sense when you move out. Don't forget to deduct the vacancy rate though from your income calculations.

@Lance Robinson

Thanks so much for the response. While I think some in this thread have read me as already being committed to investing in RE before paying off the debt. I do think house hacking a duplex makes total sense. What I do with the savings is the question - debt pay down or RE investment. And at the moment, I'm actually leaning towards paying down the debt. Do you see a problem with the house hack idea?

Originally posted by @Ihe O.:
Originally posted by @Steve Walko:
Originally posted by @Ihe O.:

You would need to gross at least 10% on the real estate to break even on paying down the loan, then apply a risk premium (the risk that you lose money) to that % to see if it is worth it.

I think that's a good way to look at it, but shouldn't it only need to be 7% THEN apply a risk premium?

The 7% has to be net of taxes.

Do you have a good estimate for what % should be knocked off the gross ROI to get the net of taxes ROI?

Originally posted by @Amy Beth:

I would suggest you both take on a few more clients but not so many that you become overwhelmed to pay off debt faster. Another option could be to raise your rates if your appointment slots are in demand. Also be sure you are both living on a budget that is tight. Considering the interest rates and the amount of your combined loans I would focus hard on paying off the debts and then invest in real estate.

Definitely sound advice. I have been focusing on ways to increase my revenue this year. I think I'll clear 60k in gross income, but may be able to get close to 70.

Originally posted by @Ihe O.:

You would need to gross at least 10% on the real estate to break even on paying down the loan, then apply a risk premium (the risk that you lose money) to that % to see if it is worth it.

I think that's a good way to look at it, but shouldn't it only need to be 7% THEN apply a risk premium?

Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

I'd get married, househack together, then pay off at least the $40k.

But... we don't know what kind of car payments or credit card debt is being carried here. That will speak to your true spending style and whether  or not you're ready to invest. 

If you also have cc and car payments, definitely pay off the SL first. If you're not willing to get rid of that stupid debt by driivng a beater and brown bagging your lunch, just stay in the rat race forever like 90% of everybody else.

No credit card debt. She has about 5k in a car loan to pay off. 

We actually went to the bank to day. Because we are both self-employed, but more recently, we don't have the income to get the kind of loan we hoped for, but after next year's taxes, we should be all good. We will pay off the car loan and my smallest student loan (about 2.5k left) for sure and maybe chip away at the rest of my student loan debt and then househack. We will decide then fully whether we will save for more REI or debt pay down.

@Joe Splitrock I think you are misreading me, though I get how. I'm tentatively adopting the REI route to see if someone can convince me of the holes in it. I obviously lean i that direction because of the simple math of it, but my emotional side of course is worried it won't work out.

Also, I have spoken to my fiancé of course. She is almost more in favor of the REI than I. I am trying to make sure SHE knows about the risks involved.

Originally posted by @Roshan K.:

I would however recommend you refinance your rate with a company like SoFi or similar to lower that interest rate into the 4s.

I got a quote from SoFI online, the lower interest rates were only available as low as about 5.5 for paying it off in 7 years. Not the big of an improvement. I would probably rather keep the minimum payment low so I have more options.