Quote from @David M.:
@Steve Sorensen
I think you need to find out more info on this deal. While its not my speciality so consult some qualified professionals, but I thought once you start pooling money together from multiple individuals like this it becomes regulated. Whether you call it a syndication or a fund (from my layman's point of view, you are dealing with making filings to the SEC. It wouldn't be my idea of "starting out on my own." But, I guess if only 3 people bringing funds ... but $200k per person to get to $1.5m gets me confused...
Structuring the payouts, yearly and at the end, I don't believe is impossible, but needs to be spelled out very clearly and properly so that it can be done legally.
I think part of your "answers" are a chicken/egg issue. I assume they know you are new. So, they should be telling you terms. If there are customary provisions that they want --- great!! Or, perhaps they would be willing to have something else. This is the beauty of business in this country --- you can structure just about anything you dream up...
What is your role in this? The GP? The "help" (not trying to be derogatory)? You better make sure its clear on what guarantees there are for those investors to get their return. Not to contradict myself, but it wouldn't be reasonable for you to get paid out a bunch and the investors not get their "promised" return --- unless they are okay with that risk. In my view, public companies tend to be frown upon when that happens.
What is this person willing to do as your mentor? Maybe I'm way off in understand goals and strategies...
Happy to chat. Hope this little bit helps. Good luck.
For some context, my mentor/investor/friend brought this proposition up unexpectedly, and he knows that this is new territory for me. We are getting on the phone tomorrow and I expect that he'll have a lot of this framework built out already, I'm trying to do my homework so that I can have an intelligent conversation, bring something to the table as far as the structure goes, and show him that I'm committed by going out within a matter of days and getting a crash course on this type of investment.
Yeah the $200k was an example...for this first deal, I would expect them to bring something like $200k each so I can purchase a SFH, then in the future, they might commit to something close to $1.5m. So I will probably have something like $200k x 3 investors = $600k for this first investment. Next time around, they would probably commit $500k each for a total of $1.5m.
And yeah, to your point, I imagine they'll bring the terms to me, but trying to educate myself ahead of that instead of just showing up to the table and saying "tell me what to do". I have four properties currently that I've purchased myself so I have experience with purchasing, rehabbing, and owning/operating rentals. This is just a larger scale and different structure than I've used in the past.
No worries on your terminology lol yes, I basically am the help...I prefer to say the "sweat equity" but it's the same thing haha and I totally agree, I'll certainly be sure to pay back my investors before paying myself, but I also need to outline the scenario where this is a success to see what my potential upside is. If the best case scenario is just paying out the investors return and I don't make any money or end up with decent equity in the property, then obviously it's not worth it.
I appreciate your thoughts!