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All Forum Posts by: Steve Riester

Steve Riester has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Quote from @Alex Bekeza:

@Steve Riester I'm seeing a similar issue regarding monthly debt coverage as my man @Dylan Vargas. Good flip but probably tough to BRRRR (depending on your tolerance for negative DSCR). Even if it appraises for $800,000 and you only want a loan for $385,000. $385k on a 30 year fixed @ 7% is $2,561 P & I. As soon as you add anything else here (CA property taxes, insurance, r & m, PM, utilities, etc) you're negative monthly cash flow with only $3,000 in rent. However, still sounds like you have the insider scoop on how to get a steep discount on this property so I'd rehab, flip, and roll the proceeds into a new BRRRR deal that would cash flow at higher leverage (probably outside of CA). Of course there are "no-DSCR" products out there (that allow negative DSCR) or conventional loans which would allow your personal income to make up the difference here but at the end of the day I don't suppose you're looking to leverage this up to 75% LTV and come out of pocket a few grand a month.

yes based on al of my rough numbers i am having to run, things go inverse. Nothing is in action yet so i am just working to bring expenses down and find room to move cash column up.

Updates on the situation as of 05/10 morning.

A new Rehab estimate, still not hard on paper, but looking at what needs repair, 40k liberal

Seller A is willing to do a 30year fixed at 5% for 5 years. If i recall correctly an a seller finance i can get my name on the deed? If so i can justify investing in the property.

If i can get the funds to pay seller B and fund the rehab, im good to go. I as financially ready this time last year but have been helping my mother out until January of this year. Now my reserves are not enough to fund myself.

I make my own hours and i am more than capable of doing over 50% of the work and can act as my own GC if needed.

Also, local rent assessment, per the BP calculator, says $3600 per month for that neighborhood and house. I live 10 minutes from the subject property.

Quote from @Robin Simon:

Scenario 1 looks promising if you can pull it off - but sounds like a sticky and complicated situation with a lot of moving pieces and potential for things to go wrong (lawsuits, disputes).  Scenario B probably takes some profits off the table but much cleaner and lower risk.  Probably depends on your gut feeling with the sellers and your ability to have things fully buttoned up as well as your risk tolerance


 Wow! I'm listening to a BP episode now and they mention Easy Street. I put it on pause and checked the status of my thread and here you are!

I have figured acquiring the whole asset with a DSCR and treating it as a traditional concept is probably the best way to go and let gonof thebowner finance option.

are you guys open to having a discussion? Another broker has found one lender willing to deal sonid like to get two more options to compare.

thanks

The bullet points

Intention is a Buy-Hold / BRRRR

-Lady passes and leaves here home in southern California to 2 women. Seller A and Seller B.

-Seller A is an acquaintance to my Mom. Seller A is willing to meet with me for an Off Market deal before listing.

-I meet and pitch Seller A to do Seller Financing and she is in to it.

-However, now i hear Seller B is money hungry and just wants to sell and get her chunk. (about 215k)

-Unlisted Sale Price: 600k (buyer pays all closing costs)

-Outstanding Loan: 175k (Seller A has been paying this alone since the inheritance, about Aug '22)

-Current Mortgage: 1650/Month (with PITI) on a Variable Rate product through Fargo

-Home needs rehab estimating 75k

-Current Comps show an estimates value after repair of $800k, conservatively.

I only want to do this with lent funds so i assume i can either get a loan for;

Scenario 1

Seller B's cut of $215k + reno costs of $75k

Thats 215 against the mortgage as well so I can then seller-finance through Seller A for the remaining $385K. They pitched 5%, duration is in the air.

I then do the rehab with the 75k and refinance in <12months with my ARV and pay everyone off.


Scenario 2

Or, do I just try to get a private loan for the sale price and the rehab and then refinance under the ARV?

Looking for insights, opinions (and money), including other options i am not aware of.

I have also hunted two different occupants that would be very happy to move in to the home in November (after the rehab) and pay 2900-3000 per month. No hard commitments but it illustrates that the market is open to such a home at such a rate.

Thank you for reading this far!

The bullet points

Intention is a Buy-Hold / BRRRR

-Lady passes and leaves here home in southern California to 2 women. Seller A and Seller B.

-Seller A is an acquaintance to my Mom. Seller A is willing to meet with me for an Off Market deal before listing.

-I meet and pitch Seller A to do Seller Financing and she is in to it.

-However, now i hear Seller B is money hungry and just wants to sell and get her chunk. (about 215k)

-Unlisted Sale Price: 600k (buyer pays all closing costs)

-Outstanding Loan: 175k (Seller A has been paying this alone since the inheritance, about Aug '22)

-Current Mortgage: 1650/Month (with PITI) on a Variable Rate product through Fargo

-Home needs rehab estimating 75k

-Current Comps show an estimates value after repair of $800k, conservatively. 

I only want to do this with lent funds so i assume i can either get a loan for;

Scenario 1

Seller B's cut of $215k + reno costs of $75k

Thats 215 against the mortgage as well so I can then seller-finance through Seller A for the remaining $385K. They pitched 5%, duration is in the air.

I then do the rehab with the 75k and refinance in <12months with my ARV and pay everyone off.


Scenario 2

Or, do I just try to get a private loan for the sale price and the rehab and then refinance under the ARV?

Looking for insights, opinions (and money), including other options i am not aware of.

I have also hunted two different occupants that would be very happy to move in to the home in November (after the rehab) and pay 2900-3000 per month. No hard commitments but it illustrates that the market is open to such a home at such a rate.

Thank you for reading this far!