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All Forum Posts by: Steven Nguyen

Steven Nguyen has started 24 posts and replied 84 times.

Post: Off Market 26 Unit Apartment Complex

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74

Honestly, the owner was pretty motivated to sell and accepted my first offer.  Guess just right time, right place with mailer.  Should be done with this property in 1-2 years then look to buy some more small apartment complexes once I complete the cash out refinance.

DM if anyone wants to connect or share ideas.

Post: Seller Financed 200 Lot MHP

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74

Investment Info:

Mobile home buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $1,100,000
Cash invested: $600,000

On-market 200 lot mobile home park
100k down, 100k consulting fee, and 1 million seller financed @ 5 % interest only over 6 years (first year interest is deferred and added onto the back end of the loan)
Highly distressed park with great on-site property manager (electrician and plumber)
Lots of non-paying tenants
Prior owner did not spend any money on CAPEX
35 vacant park owned homes needing repair
20 vacant homes needing to be torn down
City water and city sewer for 190 spaces
Septic and well for 10 spaces

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Value add mobile home parks are a long term passion project
Heavy value add potential - only 35 spaces occupied with maybe 50% of the tenants paying
If park is full, value would be worth around 7-8 million
Mobile homes are heavy on cash flow and forced appreciation especially if infilling lots

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Loopnet
Did a 3 day on-site due diligence with mobile home park consultant. After the visit, I was able to negotiate deferred interest payments for 1 year as I fix up the park

How did you finance this deal?

Seller financing - 100k down, 1 million @ 5% interest only x 6 years (1 year deferred interest payments)

How did you add value to the deal?

Hired a rehab crew of 5 to start renovating vacant park owned homes. Renovating about 2-3 park owned homes per month and able to immediately rent them out. Had to evict about 5 tenants and help 4 tenants with COVID rental assistance. Working with Clayton home to infill brand new 3/2 singlewides to either use as rentals or sell via 21st mortgage.

What was the outcome?

Work in progress. Goal within the first year is to break even in cash flow once debt service kicks in. Will bring in brand new 3/2 singlewides for 38k (Tru homes) and rent them out for $700-750/month and cash flow around $230 per month per unit with 0% down since set up costs are reimbursed or sell them for a marginal profit to give my property manager a commission. Plan to bring in 2 brand new homes per month to rent or sell then scale up depending on the demand.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Turning around distressed mobile home parks is difficult. Labor costs went up and supply cost went up. Renovations took longer than expected. Took about 8 months of blood, sweat, and tears to finally it an inflection point. High fixed expenses for a 200 lot park despite how many lots are actually occupied (i.e - landscaping 55 acres, security, on-site property manager, off-site PM). Park needs to be around 50 homes to break even. Any home beyond 50 is profit.

Post: Off Market 20 Unit Apartment Complex

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $350,000
Cash invested: $100,000

Off market 20 unit apartment complex in an up and coming area
Located 2 miles away from new stadium
Direct to seller via direct mail
No broker involved
1 burned down unit
5 vacancies
Renovation: 100k
Used a hard money lender

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Looking to scale my portfolio in Oklahoma
Oklahoma is more focused on cash flow

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Direct mail campaign
Owner responded via a post-card
Owner wanted tax assessed price
No broker involved

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money lender - 25% down , 9% interest only, term = 12 months + 3 month extension, 100k for renovation (reimbursed after inspections)
Traditional lenders would not finance this deal

How did you add value to the deal?

Renovate burned down unit
Renovate all vacant units to raise to market rents

What was the outcome?

Expect to BRRRR this deal
Appraised at 400k day 1 (50k in equity)
Expected ARV = 750k based on NOI/8CAP and sale comps of 40k/unit
Expected to get initial down payment back, renovation budget, and profit 200k

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Upon taking over the 20 unit, many tenants moved out due to bed bugs
Some tenants stopped paying rent
Renovation of burned down unit is more expensive and taking longer than expected

Post: Off Market 26 Unit Apartment Complex

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment in Oklahoma City.

Purchase price: $460,000
Cash invested: $200,000

Off market deal from direct mail campaign
26 unit apartment complex
Self-managed by prior owner
95% occupancy day 1
Can increase rent by $300 month per unit after renovations
No broker involved
Appraised value: 750k (230k equity day 1)
Offered: 1.3 million without renovations, but looking to BRRRR this property
Renovation budget: 200k
Expected ARV = 1.3-1.5 M

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Single family homes in CA average over 1 million
Wanted to diversify outside of CA and focus on cashing flowing apartment complexes to help me leave my W-2

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off market deal through direct mail
Owner was an attorney and we communicated via email
No brokers involved so worked directly with seller
Owner was looking to retire after self-managing this apartment for 15 years

How did you finance this deal?

25% down (60k in seller credit to lower down payment)
4.3% interest 10 years fixed / 30 year AM

How did you add value to the deal?

Around 8k per unit of renovation - LVP flooring, new kitchen cabinets, fresh paint, new bathtub
35k for new roof

What was the outcome?

Looking to do a cash out refinance after renovations are completed, units rented at market rents, and stabilized
Expected to pull out initial down payment, renovation expense, and profit 400k

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Renovation was delayed by 8 months due to labor shortage
Tenants will leave and not pay once a new owner takes over

Post: Off Market 26 Unit Apartment Complex

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment in Oklahoma City.

Purchase price: $460,000
Cash invested: $200,000

Off market deal from direct mail campaign
26 unit apartment complex
Self-managed by prior owner
95% occupancy day 1
Can increase rent by $300 month per unit after renovations
No broker involved
Purchase price: 520k with 60k in seller repair credit
Loan Terms: 4.3% 10 years fixed / 30 year AM / 25% down (reduced by repair credit)
Appraised value: 750k (230k equity day 1)
Offered: 1.3 million without renovations, but looking to BRRRR this property
Renovation budget: 200k
Expected ARV = 1.3-1.5 M

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Single family homes in CA average over 1 million
Wanted to diversify outside of CA and focus on cashing flowing apartment complexes to help me leave my W-2

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off market deal through direct mail
Owner was an attorney and we communicated via email
No brokers involved so worked directly with seller
Owner was looking to retire after self-managing this apartment for 15 years

How did you finance this deal?

25% down (60k in seller credit to lower down payment)
4.3% interest 10 years fixed / 30 year AM

How did you add value to the deal?

Around 8k per unit of renovation - LVP flooring, new kitchen cabinets, fresh paint, new bathtub
35k for new roof

What was the outcome?

Looking to do a cash out refinance after renovations are completed, units rented at market rents, and stabilized
Expected to pull out initial down payment, renovation expense, and profit 400k

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Renovation was delayed by 8 months due to labor shortage
Tenants will leave and not pay once a new owner takes over

Post: Mobile Home Parks - Oklahoma

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74
Quote from @James William Partridge:
Quote from @Steven Nguyen:
Quote from @John Burg:

Posting to bring attention to your question. 

Do you already own MHPs in Oklahoma or are you new to this market? If not where do you currently own? 


 I own  MHP in AL and a apartment complex in OK. I am looking to expand to OK for MHP



 Nice! I also own a 200 lot MHP in Selma, AL and 2 apartment complexes in OK.  I have a 130 MHP/RVP under contract in OK right now.  Seems like we are in the same markets.

Post: Mobile Home Parks - Oklahoma

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74
Quote from @Ryan Davidson:

@Steven Nguyen have you considered Indiana?  If so lets connect.


 Hi Ryan,

I would consider Indiana - please DM any deals.  I actually have a 130 space MHP/RVP under contract right now in Oklahoma and looking for potential partners.

Thank you.

Steven

Post: OC Master Mind Group

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74
Quote from @Bram Klein:

Steve, Checking in on your mastermind. I'm starting a Mastermind in Laguna Niguel, if anyone is interested. Thinking an early breakfast meeting say 7 or 8am. I'm a real estate investor since college and a Realtor with Keller Williams. Currently building ADU's for myself and for clients throughout Orange County. Interested in taking action & building up the portfolio of in-state properties. Open to out of state as well. Who is interested in building a network?

Unfortunately, I had to relocate to Santa Monica in 2022.  I'd be open to a a midpoint location between LA/OC.

Continuing to experience growth in 2022. Have a 20 unit apartment complex under contract that I am going to BRRRR (purchase price 350k ; 100k renovation; ARV 800k). I also have a 130 lot Mobile Home / RV Park under contract for 2.2 million that is turnkey and looking for some potential partners.

Post: Mobile Home Park Buying Criteria - Going Against the Grain

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74
Quote from @Dushyant Ravi:

As mentioned financing is a big part of the equation. I work in agency financing and Freddie & Fannie love MHP's due to their mission driven mandates and affordable rents. They finance MHP's nationwide but have a set of guidelines- proceeds atleast $1MM or close to it, well maintained parks, predominantly TOH's, etc. If these guidelines are not met, then local banks are the only option. But for many buying rough parks with POH, the business plan will be to improve the asset, convert POH to TOH and if the business plan is executed, agencies can provide the take out and refi once you stabilize the asset. A reason why you will often find investors playing within the guidelines the agencies set is because of what they offer- aggressive leverage (70-80% LTV), long loan terms, cheap rates, non recourse, etc. Local banks might need a sliver of recourse or full recourse and have shorter loan terms.


Thanks for the insight! I actually came across Vanderbilt Mortgage and Finance (Warren Buffet Company along with Clayton homes and 21st mortgage) and they actually finance parks and don't mind POH as much. They have up to 85% leverage and interest only options if renovation is needed which was surprising to me. If there is enough cash flow, you can do 15% down / 30 year AM / 3 years fixed /5.5% interest (possibly interest only). From the parks I've seen in AL, it is mostly POH that rent for around 700-800 for a 3/2 singlewide. Lot rent ranges from 250-300. RTO is very popular in AL, but sadly only 50% of the tenants actually can follow through since most have a renters mindset.

Post: Mobile Home Parks - Oklahoma

Steven NguyenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 74
Quote from @John Burg:

Posting to bring attention to your question. 

Do you already own MHPs in Oklahoma or are you new to this market? If not where do you currently own? 


 I own  MHP in AL and a apartment complex in OK. I am looking to expand to OK for MHP