Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Steven L.

Steven L. has started 3 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Help Analyzing a Deal

Steven L.Posted
  • Arlington Heights, IL
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 2

Thanks Nick.  I get it.   This was the first pass and detailed actual line item expenses and Cap X costs are needed.   

With Cap Rate, GRM, and Purchase Price then the following can be calculated - GOI, NOI, and Expenses.

Do you think this is a valid first step economic analysis?

Yes, these are the seller's numbers and would need to be verified by line item.  

My 8K was a guess, thanks for the heads up and other items.

Economic Vacancy needs to be verified, but the calculated GOI accounts for this and should be reasonably close unless the seller is misleading.

Additional Cap Ex. would come w/ a walk through.

Post: Help Analyzing a Deal

Steven L.Posted
  • Arlington Heights, IL
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 2

Brent - Great input.  Agreed on the area Cap Rate, Vacancies %, ect.

I was given the seller's numbers for Price, Cap Rate, and the GRM from which I calculated Income (and other figures).   

When a Gross Rent Multiplier (GRM) is provided, isn't it from the actual income collected (less vacancies) and therefore the Gross Operating Income (GOI)? This was my assumption, so my numbers drive off of GOI. I should have left GSI blank.

Expenses were calculated from seller's numbers.  I didn't use the 50% rule.

My spread sheet is just a model.  One next step, if the deal were interesting, would be to get 12-month line item actuals (I think)?

Post: Help Analyzing a Deal

Steven L.Posted
  • Arlington Heights, IL
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 2

Post: Help Analyzing a Deal

Steven L.Posted
  • Arlington Heights, IL
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 2

Hi Nick -

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20410233/5215-58th-...

ONE TWO
SELLERS NUMBERS THESE NUMBERS ARE TO HIT DEAL BENCHMARKS
Market or Appraised Value $1,495,000 Market or Appraised Value $1,495,000
Purchase Price $1,495,000 Purchase Price $1,455,000
Initial Equity $- Initial Equity $40,000
Down Payment 25% Down Payment 25%
Amount Financed $1,121,250 75% Amount Financed $1,091,250 75%
Down Payment Amount $373,750 25% Down Payment Amount $363,750 25%
Closing Costs & Fees $8,000 Closing Costs & Fees $8,000
Total Cash Investment $381,750 Total Cash Investment $371,750
Interest Rate (30 yr Fixed) 5.75% Interest Rate (30 yr Fixed) 5.75%
Debt Service (P&I) Monthly $6,543.31 Debt Service (P&I) Monthly $6,368.24
Debt Service (P&I) Yearly $78,520 Debt Service (P&I) Yearly $76,419
INCOME INCOME
Vacancy Rate (% of GSI) 0% Vacancy Rate (% of GSI) 0%
Gross Scheduled Income (GSI) $207,639 3 Gross Scheduled Income (GSI) $207,639
Less Vacancy Amount $- Less Vacancy Amount $-
Other Income 1 $- Other Income 1 $-
Other Income 2 $- Other Income 2 $-
Gross Operating Income (GOI) $207,639 Gross Operating Income (GOI) $207,639
EXPENSES EXPENSES
50% Rule $103,819 50% Rule
(Gross rents from GRM) - NOI): Calculated $91,029 4 GRM - NOI: Calculated
Total Operating Expenses $(91,029) Total Operating Expenses $(91,029)
Tot. Op. Exp. / GOI 44% Tot. Op. Exp. / GOI 44%
Net Operating Income (NOI) $116,610 2 Net Operating Income (NOI) $116,610
Less Debt Service $(78,520) Less Debt Service $(76,419)
Before-Tax Cash Flow (BT-CF) $38,090 Before-Tax Cash Flow (BT-CF) $40,191
Before-Tax Cash Flow Mntly $3,174 Before-Tax Cash Flow Mntly $3,349
Cash-On-Cash ROI 9.98% Cash-On-Cash ROI 10.81%
Cap Rate 7.80% 1 Cap Rate 8.01%
Gross Rent Multiplier 7.20 Gross Rent Multiplier 7.01
Computed Sales Price $1,495,000 Computed Sales Price $1,455,000
Computed NOI $116,610 Computed NOI $116,610
Other Other
Number of Doors 24 Number of Doors 24
Price Per Door $62,292 Price Per Door $60,625
Yrly Revenue Per Door $8,652 Yrly Revenue Per Door $8,652
Ylry Expenses Per Door $(7,065) Ylry Expenses Per Door $(6,977)
Net Per Door $1,587 Cash Flow per Door $1,675
Break-Even Occupancy % 81.66% Break-Even Occupancy % 80.64%
Debt Coverage Ratio 1.49 Debt Coverage Ratio 1.53
Loan to Value 75.00% Loan to Value 72.99%

Post: Help Analyzing a Deal

Steven L.Posted
  • Arlington Heights, IL
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 2

Hi - I started in earnest July 4th Weekend.  I have a $1.5M deal I would like to walk through with someone who is experienced.   

It is a 24 unit Apartment in WI. From the CAP Rate & Gross Rent Multiplier and other LoopNet Info, I have a calculated: Gross Operating Income, Expenses, NOI, Cash on Cash Return, Cash Flow, $/Door, Case Flow/Door, BE Occupancy %, Debt Coverage Ratio, Loan to Value, ect.

I have a spreadsheet that runs the numbers on what the seller is asking along with the ability to run scenario numbers to hit sample benchmarks. 

I don't think this conversation should be more than 20mins.   I am happy to send the LoopNet listing and my calculations.  

Would anyone be willing to run through this with me?

Thanks,

Steve