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All Forum Posts by: Steven Eitreim

Steven Eitreim has started 2 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Code Violation Issued To My Property!

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

City offices are notoriously inefficient and inflexible, being slaves to their own rigid processes.  However, that should benefit you in that if you follow the communicated steps to resolve the issue (hopefully in the letter, or you could call the number listed), and keep documentation of following those steps, you shouldn't have any problems.  I recommend recording names and dates of phone calls you have with the city, as well. 

Good luck.

Post: Having a hard time buying a house to flip...

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

I agree with the other posters. You have to look somewhere other than the MLS, or even the courthouse steps. Consider direct-mail marketing, or just driving for dollars (look it up if you're unfamiliar)... you need to uncover the opportunities others don't see. Best of luck.

Post: Total Newbie looking for REI Success

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

Welcome, Gregorio.

I would definitely recommend tuning into the podcasts.  Some of the best and most successful investors sharing the secrets of their success.  I'm working my way through... almost at episode 100.  (almost) every one is pure gold.

Best of luck, from another newb.

Post: Forfeit my 401K benefits to invest in RE ?

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Roy Oliphant:

@Michael D.

Seriously, a guaranteed 50% return on your investment in the first year for doing nothing but saving the money? Plus don't forget the tax deferral on that income that you would have to pay if you don't do the 401k. I don't know how you risk that for the joys of RE investing. Build the 401K and convert it to an IRA when you change jobs in a few years.

Just one man's opinion.

 While I largely agree with Roy, we have to remember that that 50% return is only on year 1.  after that, it's subject to the return on the investments within the portfolio (although you can look at the gains from the company match as bonus, since that money was free to you). 

I was also just considering this option, and actually called Pensco yesterday (this was a sponsor of one of the BP podcasts) about transferring my 401(K) into a self-directed IRA. They also suggested it's very difficult to get access to those dollars until you leave your employer (which I also have no intention of doing).

I plan to use more home equity and creative financing to fund deals going forward... this option seems like a headache.

Post: #23 was purchased today

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

Since the "winners" in this game we play tend to be those who are continually taking the next step, YOU appear to be a winner.  Congrats, and best of luck. 

Post: Use all of HELOC or just enough for down payment?

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

There's advantages and drawbacks to either option. Getting yourself highly-leveraged (using all the HELOC) puts you in a risky position should you have unforeseen capital expenses, and no way to pay for them. Worse yet, since most of the country has seen positive real-estate valuation gains since 2008/2009, should another "correction" occur, your equity withdrawl may leave you underwater on the property. Couple that with a large capital expense, and your boat may sink.

On the other hand, another property is another property.  Sure, if your only driver right now is short-term cash flow, you just have to compare the cash-flow of one property with a smaller mortgage to two (or three) properties that are all much more leveraged.  (also take into consideration having to manage more tenants with the 2nd option).

But the beauty of the rental business is that, for the trade-off of managing tenants, you are essentially getting people to PAY YOU to buy YOU a new house.  At some point, if all goes according to plan, those mortgages will amortize into thin air, and you'll own rental properties free and clear.  And would you rather own one, or many? 

I personally would take a middle-road.  Leave enough equity to maintain a solid standing on the current property financials (to weather a large expense or market correction), but utilize the rest for acquiring new solid properties. 

Good luck!

Post: Anywhere else the 1% Rule doesn't work out?

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48
Originally posted by @Bruce Runn:
Originally posted by @David Faulkner:
Originally posted by @Steven Eitreim:

I'm dealing with the same situation near Minneapolis.  Rent is trending well below 1% of what you could acquire a decent property at.  However, the market is robust, so I'm going to use the following strategy:

While the market remains solid, I'll flip.  With higher-priced real estate areas, your potential for return (in terms of $, not necessarily %) is higher.  A 30% value increase in a high-priced area is much more lucrative than a low-priced one.  Then, if/when the market corrects to a lower cost point, I'll switch to buy-and-hold (hopefully cash flow is more reasonable then).  And later on, if values get back to "robust" levels, you could sell with the appreciation, or continue renting and cash-flowing at the favorable level.

This is all coming from a newbie, so take it for what it's worth.  A response that's likely been voiced hundreds of times over the years on BP

Very good plan ... I like the way you think! A few additional comments ... The analysis I advised would tend to agree and point to flip (shorter holding period) as plan A in hot markets. This business model is based on buying below retail and value add through renovation, not on speculation about market appreciation. I would still like to make the plan B hold #s work (even if I have to force positive cash flow with a lot down, just in case the market turns mid flip). Also, flipping in a hot market you should follow the Tom Cruise Top Gun mantra "I feel the need, the need for speed!" This not only minimizes your hold costs but also minimizes the risk of the market turning on you mid flip. Finally, your profit margin also acts as your margin for safety against such risks. Basic philosophy is to structure the investment not only for maximum rewards, but also for minimal risk. All stuff you probably already know, Steven, but spelling it out for the benefit of others.

The great part of Bigger Pockets is people get to see more than one approach so they can figure out which would work best for them and also learn new ways to look at it.

I advise the opposite approach-  I believe in buying the same multi family, renovating it, renting to get the cash flow and sell in a year and a day so instead of paying the 25-28% federal, 7% state and 12% SS (adjusted for self employee deduction) for an approx. 44% tax rate, I pay 15% federal and 7% state with no SS for a 22% capital gains rate.  If it's a $70,000 gain, I just "kept/made" another $15,000.  I was taught by a very smart mentor, you'll spend more time trying to keep the money you've already made than trying to make more money.  Not only do I make approx. $12,000 in sheltered income from the rent after renovation, I took home 38% more so I kept about $27,000 and 70% more than if I flipped it quick.  I will give you the caveat that I have enough cash and Heloc money leveraged against my other properties to buy more than one place at a time so I'm not dependent on selling a reno in order to buy another but being more particular about the deals you do and making money by leveraging all of the advantages including lower taxes has always been a successful strategy.

Both scenarios can be winners but you have to decide where on the experience/risk scale you are and I'm a believer in pounding out all the take home money you can get.   We all pay taxes, I just want to pay the least I can.  All markets are different so you have to be able to adjust to the trends and figure out how you come out the farthest ahead at the end of the day.

Great advice!  However, (again, from my newbie experience), those who are working with limited capital may be better off turning 3-4 houses a year (and paying the higher associated tax rates) than the strategy you mention.  But I completely understand your point if in a position of not being limited by capital constraints.  I work in the financial industry and understand well sometimes it's much easier to grow your profit by reducing costs on existing business than it is to land new business at current margin rates. 

Thanks for the perspective.

Post: Anywhere else the 1% Rule doesn't work out?

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

I'm dealing with the same situation near Minneapolis.  Rent is trending well below 1% of what you could acquire a decent property at.  However, the market is robust, so I'm going to use the following strategy:

While the market remains solid, I'll flip.  With higher-priced real estate areas, your potential for return (in terms of $, not necessarily %) is higher.  A 30% value increase in a high-priced area is much more lucrative than a low-priced one.  Then, if/when the market corrects to a lower cost point, I'll switch to buy-and-hold (hopefully cash flow is more reasonable then).  And later on, if values get back to "robust" levels, you could sell with the appreciation, or continue renting and cash-flowing at the favorable level.

This is all coming from a newbie, so take it for what it's worth.  A response that's likely been voiced hundreds of times over the years on BP

Post: Hello from balmy Minnesota

Steven EitreimPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hamel, MN
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 48

Hello, intelligent investors.

My name is Steve.  I'm happily married with 4 young children, and currently do corporate finance with a fortune 100 organization.  However, I'm intrigued with the thought of investing in real estate on the side, and potentially full-time in the future.  I've done a considerable amount of personal property rehab, but never anything for the purpose of turning a reasonably-quick profit.  I'm looking to join the community to learn from "the best" on smart investing as I test the waters. 

Sounds like a great community, here.  Happy to be associated with it.

Thanks.

Steve