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All Forum Posts by: Steven A.

Steven A. has started 1 posts and replied 11 times.

@Elizabeth Southall I think it’s a good question. I could use the money in my checking account to pay off my debts, and then use my Heloc for the investment. Or, I could use the heloc for debts and my checking account for the investment. Which is better? Or, maybe I want to season the heloc in my checking account for a while, and consider my options. What can we tell the bank then?

@Alex Briones how do you get a 90 ltv on a cash out refinance of an investment property. Who is doing those? I can’t seem to find them!

Here is the verbiage from Wells Fargo---in the arrangement documentation---that made them wait the 12 months (which they are saying is July 1st). I paid everything back by November.

Hi Justin, yeah, its a bit odd. It looks like missing, or data unavailable.

The underwriters took like 8 weeks to get clarification on this. After submitting documentation from Wells Fargo, they said they would have to wait the 12 months.

Sorry for the late reply, but I definitely have to pay taxes. Taxes are separate from the mortgage.


Originally posted by @Aiden Mil:

@Steven Archambault

How does this work with taxes? Im assuming you still claim the rental income? We are in a similar spot

Well, I was just told by a lender that they will do a cash out refinance for me after 12 months of on time payments, as of the end of the 3 month deferment (which will be July 1st). That is according to their underwriter—who reviewed my application. Unfortunately, Wells Fargo indicates missing/late payments due to deferment for 6 months on my credit report. They told me if I had moved the payments to the end of the loan, with a modification, that would not have been the case. 

Well, I was just told by a bank that the verbiage in my deferment documents shows missed payments. They won’t refinance me until I have 12 months of payments. I don’t know if this is standard or not.

Post: Refinance after forbearance

Steven A.Posted
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@John Farady yep, this was done back in April/May. We have had nothing negative appear. I track my credit report pretty closely. Thanks for the input.

Cheers.

Post: Refinance after forbearance

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Hey John, you may be right. There was definitely a risk to our income, so the payment postponements were warranted. Upfront they said we could easily arrange the terms. So, I don’t quite think it is a typical forbearance. It won’t record as missed payments on the credit report. Maybe I screwed up, but it sure seemed okay to divert money as needed once new terms were agreed on. I guess we could make double payments for a while.


Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Steven A.:

My wife was briefly furloughed (as a doctor) and we were concerned about Rental income at a short-Term stay property (we own three single family homes, including our primary). Turns out we made a lot of money during the forbearance. The banks tagged the missed payments into the end of our loans (no questions asked). I just threw the money at some credit card debt we needed to knock out. Our credit scores are back above 700 (after paying down CCs). I am hoping to do a cash out refinance in one of our rental homes, and refinance the primary. Does anyone think this will be an issue? Thanks!

Banks lend on "the Ability and WILLINGNESS" to repay. Two separate issues: 1. You showed lack of willingness to pay. 2. The forbearance alone will likely be a major hurdle to any financing for three years.

If you explain to them that you had the money but didn't send it to them when due, they most likely simply deep 6 your application. Think of it this way, if your tenants said "we had the money but we spent it to reduce our credit card debt", would you feel better and warm and fuzzy about your tenants? In my case, I'd find better tenants.

Post: Refinance after forbearance

Steven A.Posted
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Thanks for the reply. I don’t think we will get flagged for break in employment. It was a partial furlough, and no pay checks were missed (just a reduction in a couple). Now, those paychecks are bigger than the original amounts. The mortgage companies just rearranged our terms. I don’t think it records as missed payments. I could be wrong here though.  


Originally posted by @Jesse Daconta:

Hey Steven,

A refinance will require a new lender and I could see them flagging a few things (you probably already know what I'm talking about): a break in employment, and missing payments.

It also depends on how much you owe on your rental home and primary residence.

I don't deal with single family homes but you could connect with me if you wanted to talk it through (I'm not 100% sure what value I could provide but I could be another point of view).

Best,