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All Forum Posts by: Steve George

Steve George has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Current Rental: Sell or Cash out Refi?

Steve GeorgePosted
  • Eagle Mountain, UT
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

This will never be a worth while income investment property. In the real world this property, with present rent to income ratio, will never produce positive cash flow. Reality is it is now or soon will be a major money pit.

The true value of this property is in the dead equity which can not be successfully tapped through refinance. This is a property that every wise investor should place on their immediate sell list. It has exhausted it's investment potential through appreciation and as a rental is now a liability.

I would be listing to sell immediately to not only access the equity but to avoid any further negative cash flow. 

Sell, sell, sell.

Tell me more about the rent to income ratio. On my paper it does have positive cash flow. $1500 in monthly rental income minus $900 in mortgage and expenses = $600 in my bank account every month. You are right about it being an older property that will need to be updated and maintained. It is a townhome in an HOA community so most of the exterior things are maintained through the HOA which is managed pretty well - although we could have assessments.

Post: Current Rental: Sell or Cash out Refi?

Steve GeorgePosted
  • Eagle Mountain, UT
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Corby Goade:

You haven't mentioned why you want to sell or cash out- you say you "aren't real estate people," but it sounds like you are contemplating another investment. Why? Sounds like your cash flow is good, the place is easy to rent- what's your motivation to sell? Fill us in and I would happily give you some ideas.

 I should have said we aren't currently real estate people, but we are realizing that maybe we could be.  The cash flow is positive, it has been easy to rent.  But is it a good investment? or is there a better use for this money?    Do we keep this and refinance at a higher rate to get cash out and buy another house (in a different area) or sell this one and buy two houses in a different area.   Our CPA says if we sell it we would have to pay back 15 years of depreciation.  

Post: Current Rental: Sell or Cash out Refi?

Steve GeorgePosted
  • Eagle Mountain, UT
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

We accidentally became landlords 10 years ago.  We want to get into some additional properties and build our passive income / retirement.  How do I figure out if it is better to stay in this property  OR sell it and invest in something else using  a 1031 exchange.  What kind of deal would I need to find to justify refinancing and using equity for another deal.  

Original purchase: Owner occupied 3 Bd 2.5 bath townhouse in 2003 for $148,000

Been rented since 2007, we manage the property ourselves.  

Refi at some point to consolidate a HELOC @ 3.5% interest Current Balance is $126,000

Current Market value $290,000 - $300,000

Rents at $1500/ month, it is in a good area and I don't have problems keeping quality renters in it at that price.  

Expenses - $200 / month (HOA and some utilities)

We see about $600 positive cash flow monthly.  

With depreciation and home office expenses we  "loose money" every year and that helps us out on our taxes.     

We would like to keep it, but don't know how to get into another property or if it would be worth it.  We aren't real estate people, and have other jobs so we would be looking for turnkey.  What are my options here?