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All Forum Posts by: Steve Bugnacki

Steve Bugnacki has started 3 posts and replied 22 times.

Thank you for your thorough response.  Working on 1st deal.  Involves probate and foreclosure so it's a conplex and long  process but looking positive.

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And to tack onto this, what about the closing costs? Closing the deal with cash will have closing costs but then to refinance to repay the HELOC will have another round of closing costs. This sounds like getting hit twice and just adding to the amount of the deal. Or am I looking at this wrong or missing something?

Not sure if I see a way around the two closings.  In my thinking, a cash deal should yield a better price so yes, there will be closing costs on the cash purchase.  The 2nd closing, to either sell the property after rehabbed or to refinance into a fixed rate mortgage at a lower rate and get the funds to pay off the higher rate HELOC is a necessary component in my estimation.  Open to other strategies, however.
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Looking for feedback on my strategy. My thoughts are I can get better deals with a cash offer on or off market. To that end, I can access $280,000 on a HELOC at 6.75%, and have other funds available to make a total cash offer up to $400,000 on property in either CT or Florida (my target areas). I like the flexibility of the HELOC allowing me to quickly close within 7 days if a deal becomes available while incurring no interest while I look. Considering either BRRRR or flip in Connecticut for MFH or SFH and/or long term MFH or SFH rental in Florida.


Very helpful, Jay. Thank you. So if I paid $160,000 Cash (from HELOC) for a property, I would need to make sure the property will have an appraised value of $213,000 or higher after rehab which would enable me to meet the 75% LTV refinance parameter for a Fannie Delayed Financing loan. Am I looking at that correctly?

 @Steve Bugnacki  The most important part of any purchase using short term funds (Which lines of credit are as they do not have fixed rates) is your take out plan. In other words, you want to have how you are going to pay back the line of credit.  There are any number ways to do that but you need to understand your best path before you plunk down the cash.  For example, if you are looking to do a conventional loan as your take out you can use Fannie Mae's delayed financing exemption that will allow you to pull out UP to what you paid for the property or 75% loan to value which ever was lower within the first 6 months.   Fannie delayed financing  

But, if you plan on using a small credit union for example you would need to map out their requirements as they might be different. Same with a Debt service coverage ratio loan as there are 100's of dscr products and a lot have just slightly different requirements.  So, bottom line map it out BEFORE you buy. A COMPENTENT loan officer should be able to help you with. 


 @Steve Bugnacki   Your numbers are correct assuming you are using conventional financing. But, remember, you would have to get all the work done and the refinance closed before 6 months to use the delayed financing exception. Or, other wise you will now have to wait 12 months after purchase to use the new value.  (well, we have a way around that seasoning issue no matter what you do but most lenders will not so the plan needs to be get it closed with the 6 months.)

OK, so challenging indeed to get it all done in that time frame, so likely best to figure on carrying the HELOC for 12 months when doing my calculations to find out what my offer will be to ultimately find the number for which the deal will work for me.
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Looking for feedback on my strategy. My thoughts are I can get better deals with a cash offer on or off market. To that end, I can access $280,000 on a HELOC at 6.75%, and have other funds available to make a total cash offer up to $400,000 on property in either CT or Florida (my target areas). I like the flexibility of the HELOC allowing me to quickly close within 7 days if a deal becomes available while incurring no interest while I look. Considering either BRRRR or flip in Connecticut for MFH or SFH and/or long term MFH or SFH rental in Florida.


 Great idea cash is king. I only deal with cash buyers and they always get great deals ,So, I am thinking that once I know the number I

Good to know, Bob.  So, once the number for which a deal will work is known, I imagine it is simply a matter of being willing to make alot of offers knowing that most will be rejected but the play will be to find the sellers who make a counter.  When you know the number that will make a deal work, I imagine you make an offer "x" % lower than that number leaving room for the seller to counter and knowing that most will simply reject.  I further imagine that each deal is different (days on market, motivation of seller).  Do you have any rough %'s below "your number" to make that initial offer?

Quote from @Will Biestek:

Yes, great strategy that my clients and I use personally. Just take note: I'm assuming your HELOC is variable rate and that 6.75% could change so make sure there is some buffer if you're running the numbers on long-term holds using HELOC funds.

How is your deal flow in CT?

Just starting out, Will.  Getting the financing in place first and will hone in next on finding deals. 
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Quote from @Steve Bugnacki:

Looking for feedback on my strategy. My thoughts are I can get better deals with a cash offer on or off market. To that end, I can access $280,000 on a HELOC at 6.75%, and have other funds available to make a total cash offer up to $400,000 on property in either CT or Florida (my target areas). I like the flexibility of the HELOC allowing me to quickly close within 7 days if a deal becomes available while incurring no interest while I look. Considering either BRRRR or flip in Connecticut for MFH or SFH and/or long term MFH or SFH rental in Florida.


Very helpful, Jay. Thank you. So if I paid $160,000 Cash (from HELOC) for a property, I would need to make sure the property will have an appraised value of $213,000 or higher after rehab which would enable me to meet the 75% LTV refinance parameter for a Fannie Delayed Financing loan. Am I looking at that correctly?

 @Steve Bugnacki  The most important part of any purchase using short term funds (Which lines of credit are as they do not have fixed rates) is your take out plan. In other words, you want to have how you are going to pay back the line of credit.  There are any number ways to do that but you need to understand your best path before you plunk down the cash.  For example, if you are looking to do a conventional loan as your take out you can use Fannie Mae's delayed financing exemption that will allow you to pull out UP to what you paid for the property or 75% loan to value which ever was lower within the first 6 months.   Fannie delayed financing  

But, if you plan on using a small credit union for example you would need to map out their requirements as they might be different. Same with a Debt service coverage ratio loan as there are 100's of dscr products and a lot have just slightly different requirements.  So, bottom line map it out BEFORE you buy. A COMPENTENT loan officer should be able to help you with. 


Looking for feedback on my strategy. My thoughts are I can get better deals with a cash offer on or off market. To that end, I can access $280,000 on a HELOC at 6.75%, and have other funds available to make a total cash offer up to $400,000 on property in either CT or Florida (my target areas). I like the flexibility of the HELOC allowing me to quickly close within 7 days if a deal becomes available while incurring no interest while I look. Considering either BRRRR or flip in Connecticut for MFH or SFH and/or long term MFH or SFH rental in Florida.

Looking for a rock star real estate agent who is a successful investor as well. Looking for guidance in the Stuart, Florida north to Melbourne, FL area. Looking for either SFH or MFH suitable to BRRRR or flip. Leaning toward a property I can make a cash offer on under $500,000. Prefer something within 5-10 minutes from the beach.

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@Steve Bugnacki

Ah, thanks for the information!


 You're welcome, have you ever purchased a property at auction?