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All Forum Posts by: Stephanie Joe

Stephanie Joe has started 4 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Which should be first? Refinance our primary home or purchase a new home?

Stephanie JoePosted
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Quote from @Derek Brickley:

Hey Stephanie!

You can do both at the same time, but you wouldn't be able to do it both as a primary residence.  Once you buy another home as a primary residence, you would need to refinance the current home as an investment which would have higher rates.  Depending on your time frame, refinancing the current home first as a primary residence and waiting to buy another primary residence would be the way to get the best terms.  If it's more important to get another home first, then go ahead and do that.  Just know the refinance will need to be done as an investment if done after the fact.


Hi Derek,

You have read our minds! That's exactly what we thought about. However, when we decided to buy a new property, we didn't plan for lower interest rates. Its challenging for us to time it.

To be clear, if we do refi as a primary home first, a lender will assume we intend to live in the current property for at least another 12 months, is this correct? 

Thank you so much!

-Stephanie

Post: Which should be first? Refinance our primary home or purchase a new home?

Stephanie JoePosted
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Quote from @Jasper K Juhl:

@Stephanie Joe, you're in an exciting position with a new construction home on the way and a potential rental property in the mix! Here's a breakdown of how you might approach your decision:

  1. New Loan vs. Refinance: Securing the loan for your new home first could be beneficial, especially if you're planning to rent out your current home. Many lenders will allow you to count future rental income as part of your debt-to-income ratio, which might make it easier to qualify for the new loan. This could help you secure a better deal on your new mortgage, especially with your strong credit score (780+).
  2. Current Market Trends: Rental prices are in a bit of a flux right now. While some markets, especially in tech-driven areas like Austin, have seen a drop in rent prices (down 5.6% year-over-year in Austin as of May 2023), other areas are still experiencing steady rental growth. This may impact how much rental income you could expect from your current home​.
  3. Concurrent Loans: It’s definitely possible to refinance and secure a new home loan at the same time. Several lenders offer programs designed to help streamline the process. However, you’ll want to compare closing costs and ensure the timing works with your home’s construction schedule.
  4. Refinancing Your Primary Home: With your current mortgage rate sitting at 6.75%, refinancing could lower your monthly payments significantly, especially if you can lock in a lower rate. On the other hand, if interest rates are expected to rise, you might want to prioritize the new home loan before refinancing.

I recommend speaking with a mortgage broker who can provide specific advice based on today’s rates and your long-term goals.

P.S.: If you're planning to rent out your current home, keep in mind that many landlords in 2023 are adjusting their rent expectations due to a shift in market dynamics, with vacancy rates creeping up as more rental units come online​(. This is something to factor in when setting your rental price.

Good luck with your new home and feel free to ask if you have more questions!

Good morning Jasper,

 Thank you so much for your detailed suggestion! I'll connect with lenders.

-Stephanie

Post: Which should be first? Refinance our primary home or purchase a new home?

Stephanie JoePosted
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Hi Folks,

Here is our situation: My husband and I have a 6.75% 30-year fixed rate mortgage on our primary home; thus, we signed a contract on purchasing a new construction home last month, and the construction will be completed by the end of the year. 

Both of us work W2 jobs for years with good tax returns and 780+ credit scores. We are am planning to move to the new home and rent out our current one. We have heard that some lenders provide both refi and new loan at the same time. If not, we are looking for 30-year fixed rate mortgages for both properties, which should we get first? Refi or New home loan? 

Thank you so much :)

-Stephanie

Post: Credit My Commission to Closing Cost In California

Stephanie JoePosted
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Quote from @Joe Homs:

@Stephanie Joe it should just be a simply written out letter on his letterhead.  I am actually surprised that the builder is letting you do this.  Most of the time when you are representing yourself, they do not.

Good Investing.

Thank you, Joe! It sounds pretty easy :) 

Post: Credit My Commission to Closing Cost In California

Stephanie JoePosted
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 3

Hello All,

I got my real estate agent license in February this year and is in the process of purchasing a new-construction home for myself. The escrow is asking my broker to send a letter of agreement indicating that he agrees on up to the amount he is crediting my commission to the closing cost. My broker agreed to help, but he has no experience with this kind of letter. Where can I find a template for him? 

Any advice would be appreciated!

Quote from @Doug Smith:

We've lived in our home for 22 years and we've built a ton of equity. We do use a HELOC to fund flip projects. I wouldn't use it for a long-term hold property, but to do a flip might work. That being said, it is a risk. We made the majority of the mistakes in our first 10 deals. After that, it became like a machine and risk really dropped. If you're on your first deal, trust me, you're in for a lot of surprises. Give it a lot of thought before you risk it all on the real estate roullette wheel if you don't have a partner that is involved with a great track record.

Hi Doug,

I appreciate your advice. I hesitate to take risk because I feel financially obligated to my family. Meanwhile, I’m highly motivated to take actions in real estate. You’re right, I have no experience so I have to think it over. I’m so lucky receiving great advice from investor as you!


Quote from @Jon Kelly:

@Stephanie Joe why does your DTI matter that much? Take the loan for property #2. Then, refi cashout of property #1. Even if that negatively impacts your DTI, who cares?

You'll have funds for your first BRRRR project and you'll be off and running.

If DTI is ever an issue you can look towards commercial (investor) loans. Reach out to private lenders for fix and flip or DSCR loans.

Hi Jon,
Thank you so much for your advice! I’ve heard about DSCR loan but haven’t learned it deeper. You’re pointing a new direction to me. So excited to learn new things everyday at BP community :)

Hi Ke Nan,

Your advice is incredibly helpful!
I really appreciate your time and knowledge, will consider the pros and cons carefully before making any decision.

Hi Jason,

Thank you so much for your detailed advice. I'm so excited for my first BRRRR in the near future, and mentally ready to learn by making mistakes.

Hi Folks!

I'm a newbie investor and have been a big fan of BP. I'm moving to a new home with a conventional loan by the end of the year and planned to rent out the current one. My question is how I can pull out my current home equity without affecting my DTI, and use it as capital for my first BRRRR project? Will HELOC work better than Home Equity Loan in my situation? Any advice would be greatly appreciated 😊