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All Forum Posts by: Johnathan Norman

Johnathan Norman has started 21 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Criminal Complaint in Cleveland.

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

This is a duplex in Clark Fulton.  I know it is tempting to assume that since i got citied my PM isn't taking care of the property but I use a 3rd party service to check my properties  randomly.  Moreover I have multiple units throughout the city for years, none with a single issue. 

I honestly wouldn't be surprised in the tenant left a trash can outside for a few days, I've personally done this at my own home when traveling.   I'm just not sure two $510 fines , without a warning, is really a reasonable response. 

Post: Criminal Complaint in Cleveland.

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

So i got a court notice yesterday from the county regarding a "criminal" offense that could result in jail time. Obviously I freaked out and after talking to a few lawyers I was really surprised.   In one of my properties the tenant left a trash can outside before 12:00, this was  considered a health violation which is also a misdemeanor. I have 7 days from the day the mail was sent to plead guilty and pay a $510 dollar fine.  

I then got a separate health code violation for the "waste" in the garbage can which was outside before 12:00.  This is another $510 dollar fine and also a criminal offense. 

Since i live outside the state it took longer than 7 days for me to get the mail. So i'm forced to hire a lawyer to show up in court to address the issue. Every lawyer i spoke to said the same thing, they don't have to give warnings and lately the county seems to be targeting LLC's holding property.

So just a heads up for others. 

Originally posted by @Tim Holmes:

@Jonathan Norman  I don't have a attorney recomendation but on the insurance side, force-placed insurance  may be necessary  if the asset  is valuable enough to protect while you're foreclosing. Normally the cost is passed on to the borrower. However if they're not paying the note they probably won't pay for the insurance either. So you'll have to foot the bill.

When the insurance cost is passed on to the borrower , if they don't pay is that amount just added the the principle of the note?  

have a borrower who doesn't have insurance and is way behind on payments. Any recommendations ?

Post: Filing assignment of mortgage

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

thanks!

Post: Filing assignment of mortgage

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

Do you just file the AOM or is other supporting documentation required? such as the original mortgage

Post: Banks not wanting note investor accounts

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by :

I wonder what your Articles look like? I doubt that they limit your LLC to Notes, but rather expect they permit a wide variety of RE investing and may call out notes as an example, but not limited to... If so, consider having a broader discussion with whatever department passed judgement and frame your business in the broader context of RE investment vs. Notes centric. I have found that using the same language as my Articles is helpful. BTW,, your're not in the Collections business, you're in the Lending business, just like they are. You just happen to own a Loan that needs compassionate reconsideration and restructuring. ---and maybe some collections down the pike...

Yeah that is the kicker, my bank knows me fairly well, I have multiple LLC's holding real estate in various states. They even recently gave me a 6 figure line of credit with just a phone call. However when I mentioned the new LLC would be focusing on performing and non-performing debt they freaked out. Mostly about purchasing non-performing loans.

As for the articles they are just boiler plate and not very specific, certainly is an area worth reviewing.

Post: Banks not wanting note investor accounts

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Tim S.:

Hmmm... How do they know what business you are in? My Notes business LLC account is with Wells Fargo, I don't recall them ever asking me what kind of business it is. I had to provide the articles of organization, they didn't look at it while I was there.

Every bank I've spoken to has asked.  For kicks i just filled out a wells-fargo application online and it also was one of the drop down questions.  

Post: Banks not wanting note investor accounts

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

Not sure anyone else has run into this but I wanted to share. The books I've read didn't mention this and its becoming a bit of a pain. It seems many banks simply do not want business accounts with LLCs holding notes. 

I have a local credit union that I use for most of my LLC's and they refused to open a checking account for my note business because they didn't want to have accounts with "any company that may be involved with debt collection, cryptocurrencies or marijuana".

It's a small credit union so I assumed it was not common, so I went to a larger local bank. They said due to regulatory concerns they didn't want the account because I was considered competition and thus it would be a conflict of interest .

I never thought I'd say this but I just want a bank to take my money.  Anyone else run into this? 

Post: Purchased a few notes.. question

Johnathan NormanPosted
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 56
  • Votes 45

Didn't really consider this before i started but who keeps the original loan docs? I just had them sent to directly to my servicer.