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All Forum Posts by: Sol Dubnov

Sol Dubnov has started 8 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: What better improves value?

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Hi,

We are remodeling a property that we plan to rent out as 3 units, and I was wondering if putting a central air versus split mini systems will affect the value and the rentabililty of the property?
It is easier to install the mini-splits, and each unit can have their own control. On the other hand we can put the ducts now during remodel and I presume this will increase the value more then the splits. Is it so?
Thanks for you advice or thoughts,
Sol

Post: stuck with construction financing

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Thanks all for the replies. Jon, I would like to understand better your numbers. Lets say the two units cost together $300K and we get $2500 total on both as well. This makes gross income $30K a year. Even at 25% expenses, we are talking about $22.5K in net income. So the gross CAP is 10% and net 7.5%. From what I see around, this is a decent CAP. Or are my numbers wrong?

Also regarding the payments, using Bryan's numbers, the conventional $300K at 6.5% interest would be 2235/month. That would still make a small positive cash flow ($256), but that is if we totally cash out on what we put it and borrowed. Since we did put half of it in our own cash ($150K), I presume refinancing of HM $150K loan will make payments of $1175/month. In this scenario we are positive $1382/month having put down $150K. Are these numbers reasonable? Or am I off by some major factor here?
Thanks for the clarifications.

Post: Do not deal with this bank

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Well, I could not just suck it in, so we filed a complaint with Federal Reserve Consumer Help and BBB. Will let you know how it goes.
In reply to Financemixer, we actually did get a commitment from a lender subject to the appraisal and inspections, but this was all over the phone. Now the LOI had this almighty clause that no commitment by bank representative counts except for decisions of the loan committee...

The denial letter arrived saying that the reason was insufficient value or type of collateral. This is certainly a lie as we exactly discussed that and agreed about the numbers and the type of the property. Should I publish the name of the bank?

Post: Do not deal with this bank

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Why would a company that has "no appetite" for investment drag potential customers through application and appraisal expenses while not intending to invest? Here is a story of a community bank in California (I'll post the name later) that, to my opinion, was not truthful in its intent to make a deal and mislead us into spending money on appraisal, legal documents and time.

We own a small mixed use property free and clear which generates a nice revenue. So we contacted a bank for getting a loan (cash refi) in order to have money to fix another property. The bank requested and thoroughly reviewed all documents, rental contracts, building permits, county records, whatever you think of ... This all was done prior to ordering an appraisal that cost in the thousands. Since this is a mixed used, non owner occupied investment property, we really made an effort to make sure that the deal is falling within the bank's investment criteria and that there are no concerns that need to be addressed prior to spending money on the expensive appraisal.

Eventually we got LOI and pre-approval from the bank, a process that took many months, while being in constant communications with the bank's vice-president who assured us that the deal is going to go through

but not so!

After having completed the process, the bank refused to issue the loan. In numerous conversations with the vice-president we could not get any answer about what were the problems or concerns. The value was good, all legal documents where in place and we even got clarification letters from the appraiser that the property had no unusual problems or concerns.

BUT the bank just did not feel like doing the deal! Mr. vice-president told us that "in other times" this loan would have gone through, no problems, but now they back off from deals. Why, what and how this happened, he wouldn't explain. "It was the decision of the bank committee" he repeated, the same committee and underwriters who he assured that have already looked, analyzed and pre-approved the deal.

Of course we can not force someone to give us a loan, but my question is what can we do to recuperate the damages? Or more specifically:
1 - is this behavior a truthful action in lending? We feel deceived and mislead into spending large money with no reason for denial being provided.
2 - are we entitled to a refund for the cost of the appraisal? The bank after all is the customer of the appraiser, not us.
3 - how can we find more records about the lending policy and behavior of this bank? Is this in public records? I believe that backing off from investments or some other internal issues are behind the refusal, which means they were not sincere in their intent.
4 - what are the legal or consumer remedies for such a situation? We demanded to have the expenses paid back but where refused / ignored. Also we'd like to complain about the whole process and attitude.

please let me know what you think, and if I should provide more details about the bank and people involved.

cheers

Post: stuck with construction financing

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Thanks to all who replied and thanks for the encouragement and advice. To give you some more details, we bought the 2 units from a bank for $150K. The previous owner pulled over $500K loans on it and foreclosed. It had lots of violations, so we are obliged to repair it for about $150K. We have got all construction permits and did already a major repair, spending about $50K on it but still have long way to go. It seemed a good deal for a property once worth $500K, even considering 20 - 25% drop in prices.
Jon, you said that refinancing hard money might be easier then getting a loan in the current situation. Can you please explain more? Ralph, what do you mean by financing plan? Our original plan was to rent the two units for about $2500. That would have paid a conventional loan of about $150-200K and expenses with positive cash flow. Now, if we are to take a loan at 15%, I doubt we will be positive. And a question to Bryan - what does it mean "portfolio the paper temporarily"?
Again, thanks to all. cheers

Post: stuck with construction financing

Sol DubnovPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 2

Hi,

We've purchased a 2 unit fixer in cash as an investment but can not get a loan for remodeling it even though we have equity in the property. We own a primary residence on which we make mortgage payments. The reasons for not being able to get a loan is that the banks would not consider future income on an investment rental for repayment capability. And for some reason this being a duplex makes it even more difficult..

We thought to rent out our current primary and move into one of the 2 units, but the banks would not approve it since the new units are smaller then our current home.

So we are considering selling our primary residence in order to qualify for a new loan, but I was wondering if there are more creative solutions for our problem?

thanks,
Sol