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All Forum Posts by: Douglas J.

Douglas J. has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Meeting private lender today!

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Hello everyone! I wanted to let you know that I am meeting private lender to get funded on my first deal!

Here is the property and the numbers per owner,

This property is turn key and ready to start making money. Doesn't need anything done to it. All units are occupied at this time. Only serious pre-approved buyers will be shown the property as I do no want to disturb the tenants. The triplex was built in 1942, it is located on the very south edge of Planeview. Each unit is a 2 bed, 1 bath with approximately 700 square feet. All units have been remodeled within the last few years. This included all new interior paint and flooring. 2 units have new furnaces about 2 years old, the other one is older but still works, which is why it's still there. One unit also has a new water heater about a year or so old. The exterior was painted about 2 years ago and I also put on all brand new steel doors with deadbolts. Again, this is pretty much turn key, just take over the leases and start making money. I currently rent one of them for $485/month, but that is all bills paid. The other two units are at $350, trash only paid. I previously rented them all for $350 with trash paid only. It all averaged out to about the same whether you do all bills paid or only pay trash. Trash cost $98 every three months. Property taxes are $380/year and Insurance cost me $439/year. I cannot owner carry this. You'll have to go to a bank for financing, which I'm asking $35,000. With any investment property, you'll most likely have to put 20% down. At this price, you'll need a $7000 down payment and you'll be financing $28,000 on a 20 year loan. At 5%, that will come to $184.79. Your total mortgage payment, which includes taxes and insurance will be approximately $253.04 (Depending on your rates). You'll also have to pay $33/month for trash. Total rents @ $350/month per unit = $1050. ($1050 - $253.04 - $33 = $763.96 per month of CASH FLOW). This is definitely a turn key cash cow. With the extremely low mortgage payment, you'll only lose money if all 3 units are vacant. As long as you have one rented, you will be able to make the payment and still put a little in your pocket. I've owned these since 2007, I'm selling because I want to consolidate my rental properties and get a few paid off.

Now I know the money numbers will likely be different due to the private lender option, this still looks like a good deal to me.

I have a question, First, what numbers would begin to make this deal 'bad'? Specifically with the private lender, what would be acceptable and when would I be giving up too much?

This is my first deal so I am traveling in new territory. Any advice for a total newbie that isn't scared of a 'no', but quite worried he might say 'yes' and not knowing that I should say no. Please help.

Apprehensively,

Douglas S. Jones

Post: brand new in Wichita, KS

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Welcome to BP! Lots of info here and great responses from members when asking for help! I am also in Wichita! Currently in the midst of my first deal!

Post: Sole proprietorship or S-corp for wholesaling and flipping houses.

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

@Joseph Caracappa

I used the search bar and put in "sole proprietor or LLC" and it brought up a great many threads that might help answer this question and many you might not have asked yet or haven't thought to ask. I have found that most of my questions have been asked and answered. Give the search a try.

Sincerely,

Douglas S. Jones

Post: Sole proprietorship or S-corp for wholesaling and flipping houses.

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

@Joseph Caracappa

First let me state that I am not an attorney and I am not giving legal advice.

From the research I have done, it would be better to go with an scorp or an LLC. These will help protect you from losing your personal property in the unfortunate event that you are sued or the business goes under. With sole proprietor you put yourself in the position to lose everything. Also, there may be tax advantages with incorporating.

The best thing you could do is speak to an attorney about what would be best for what you are wanting to do.

Doug

Post: Four plex owner finance...

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

hi @jesse h. Thanks for the advice! That might work.

Post: Four plex owner finance...

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

thank you all for he advice!!! Unfortunately, the properties were gone before I got to them. Oh well, moving on to the next deal!

Post: Four plex owner finance...

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Thanks, Aaron!

I became disabled in February of 2012. Had to spend down. Long story short, I am flat broke. Being on disability pay for the next 25 to 50 years, is not okay with me! Which is why I am finally taking a leap of Faith and working toward getting off of it and still support my family.

Doug

Post: Four plex owner finance...

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Joe, that is correct. I am not on here asking for the 17k. I believe I can get the down from a local investor or he may point me to someone that helped him get started. Or a family member. I would like to leave family out of it.

Should I find out more about what the owner offers for financing or get the 17k prior to talking with the seller? Just asking for advice. That is all.

Thanks,

Doug

Post: Four plex owner finance...

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Douglas J.:

Complete newbie here, trying to secure my first property. Found a 4plex for sale, 85k. Owner finance w/20% down. Do I try to secure the 17k before I talk to owner? it rents for 350 per so the income is 1400. 700 under the 50% rule. I don't have any more info at this point. I linked it below. Thanks.

Post: Is my cash flow really $135.75/month?

Douglas J.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1
Maybe I'm wrong but, shouldn't you have looked at 50% rule prior to purchase?