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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Robinson

Aaron Robinson has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Response Rate Confusion

Aaron RobinsonPosted
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

Hey Mike! I don't post EVER, but I've followed a lonnng time, and have been investing for 10+ years (6 on my own). Great to get a response (promptly at that) from you.

So, I have data on every direct mail piece I've done over 4 years. Every year I fight with myself about what makes more sense TO ME. I send out 4-6 monthly mailings per lead (my numbers show that 4 months should be max), and I use 4-5 unique pieces each time. However, I never start my numbers over and track per mailing (each time i send out a new batch). I basically keep a running spreadsheet for each lead type/source (broken down monthly, quarterly, yearly, and all-time).

Your way/suggestion shows how well a particular mailing and/or mailer does... no? My way mainly focuses on how well direct mail does.

Post: Response Rate Confusion

Aaron RobinsonPosted
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

Response rate is simply, (responses ÷ number of mail pieces sent out) right?

Soooo here's my issue with this... 

If I send 100 people a postcard (so that's 100 postcards), and 90 call back, that's a 90% response rate right?
But what happens when I mail the other 10 again next month? So now I've sent out 110... 

If I get 10 calls, is that a 100% response rate (10 calls divided by 10 mailings, or 100 calls divided by 100 people)?

or is that a 90% response rate (100 calls divided by 110 mailings)???

How do we calculate response rate? Per mailing or per person? By definition, response rate is based on how many people u invite vs. how many respond (not how many times u invite them). You can keep separate numbers to determine how many letters/touches it takes and how much your total campaign costs, but response rate seems like it should be per person (not per mailing). Thoughts???

So here's my issue with this... You actually sent roughly 2,400 mailers (800+ absentee owners x 3 mailings) and got 92 calls. That's not a 11% response rate (it's actually closer to 3%). I think that's what the original poster was asking... Do we calculate per mailing or per person.

If I send 100 people a postcard, and 90 call back, that's a 90% response rate right?
But what happens when I mail the other 10 again next month? So now I've sent out 110... If I get 10 calls, is that 100% response rate (10 calls divided by 10 mailings, or 100 calls divided by 100 people), or is that 90% (100 calls divided by 110 mailings)???

Originally posted by @Adrien C.:

I'm not sure how the 2% is calculated. I track per mailing. So in my first mailing, I mailed 865 absentee owners. Overall I had 55 returned mails so my numbers are based on the 811 houses that got something. I had 52 calls in the first mailing for a 6.4% response rate. In the second mailing, I had 26 calls for a 3% response rate. I'm up to 9 calls on my third mailing which went out a week ago for 1.2%. With each mailing, I calculate the ratio based on mail sent vs calls. When they call, they come off the next months mailing so I figure that reduction into my calculation. Over the 3 campaigns, I have a combined 92 calls which is 11.3%. I have 3 closed properties with a handful in the pipeline so likely 1-2 more. This 3rd mailing I'm getting more calls of the take me off your list variety. 

I have similar stats with my vacant list and my driving list.