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All Forum Posts by: Slaughter Paul

Slaughter Paul has started 7 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: I need your help ( which option to choose )

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

I’m planning on house hacking a duplex for 185k. However, I have a dilemma with choosing the best loan option. I plan to move out after one year and put someone in my unit. My goal is to own the property long term.

Option 1: 15% down @ 2.625 closing cost is 6100

Option 2: 5% down @ 3.125. Total cash to close $14,750-$15,500. This depends on the current rate and if the bank pays any closing costs. This number consists of your 5% down payment, closing costs (title fees, appraisal), and prepaid (homeowners insurance and property taxes). PMI would be approx $53 a month. All of this depends on my credit score.

P.s I was able to get seller to split closing cost.

Thanks for help!

Post: New Investor in Lancaster and surrounding area

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

Welcome to BP!

Post: First seller financing deal

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

Ask yourself this question:  Are you an Investor, or a Property Collector?  

If you answer is Investor (as it should be), then negotiate based on YOUR needs.  The goal isn't a compromise.  The goal is to get your needs...financial needs.  If the seller can't deliver because their needs don't align with yours, then you don't have a deal.  Your goal isn't to figure out what it takes to get the property...it's to get the deal.  The two are in no way the same.

Forget the Zestimate...it's garbage.  Look for properties in the immediate area that are the same (or within 10%) sq ftg as this property, that sold within the last 3 months.  There's your property value.

 Thanks for your advice. I will apply it when I'm negotiating the deal. I truly appreciate input. 

Post: First seller financing deal

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Sarah Brown:
Originally posted by @Slaughter Paul:
Originally posted by @Sarah Brown:

You negotiate by listening to his needs and his position.  Money isn't always the answer.  

 Can you please elaborate?

Just talk to him.  Listen to what he is really saying.  What is his motivation? Why is he selling the property? What's his experience in owner carry?  What kind of terms is he looking for in his owner carry?  In our market someone who is advertising an owner carry, generally has specific terms they are looking for, and they do it with enough regularity that they probably aren't going to negotiate much on it.  If he has no experience, you may need to toss out some terms to get the negotiating party started.  


According to the seller, he bought the house at auction but don't want to deal with it right now because he got other properties in front. As for his experience with owner carry, he mentioned doing 15 or so deals with each one being a little different. He is asking for 3000-5000 down payment that will go towards the purchase price with 7% interest which he said could be negotiated. After that I can do neither interest only payment or interest and principle depending on how much I want to pay monthly. He will structure it from 6 months to two years and have a balloon in the end. However, if I need time to sell or refinance he will work with me (I will have that included in the contract of course). 

Post: First seller financing deal

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Sarah Brown:

You negotiate by listening to his needs and his position.  Money isn't always the answer.  

 Can you please elaborate?

Post: First seller financing deal

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

I came across a three bedrooms, two bath single family property that I believe needs about 30k in rehab. The seller bought the house at auction but do not want to deal with it right now because he got other properties in front. He is asking for 65k with a seller financing option. My next step is to visit the property and take as much pictures as possible to have a contractor estimate the rehab cost and timeline before making an offer. After doing my due diligence, I found 10 similar properties on Zillow with an average sale price of 114k. My strategy is to use the BRRRR method for this property but I don't know the ARV of the property. However, Zillow estimate the house at around 105k.

How do I negotiate a favorable deal? What to look for in a seller finance deal for someone who has no experience?

Post: Finding a private lender

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Stephen J Davis:

The best way to find someone that you can trust is to join a local real estate investor group, talk to some of the members and get referrals. Some private lenders want you to fail so that they can get the property from you. Be cautious. Interest can range between 7 and 12% so make sure the deal works with that high interest. Get out of it as soon as possible.

 Thanks for your input @Stephen J Davis. I really appreciate it. 

Post: Finding a private lender

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

How to identify a good private lender when you are new to real estate investing? 

Post: Newbie investor: Creative financing

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Andrew Powers:

Have you run numbers with PMI and low down payment vs no PMI and high down payment? Depending on how much your PMI would be, your required margins, and your long term strategy... it can make sense to pay the PMI if your out of pocket cost is low and your returns are acceptable.

Given the market uncertainty in the near future and for you just starting out, it is often recommended to conserve cash.


My required margins are 12% or more COC. At least $100 per door cash flow on duplex, $200 per door cash flow on single family. My long term strategy is buy and hold single family and multifamily rental properties. 

Here are the numbers:

with PMI and low down payment (house hacking)

Purchase price: $170,000 | Closing cost: $2,500 | Down payment: $10,000 (5.9%) | PMI: $67

COC: 16.56% | Cash flow: $310 | NOI: $985

no PMI and high down payment

Purchase price: $170,000 | Closing cost: $2,500 | Down payment: $34,000 (20%) 

COC: 7.70% with management fee (10%) | Cash flow: $298 | NOI: $871

COC: 12.36% without management fee| Cash flow: $478 | NOI: $1052



Post: Newbie investor: Creative financing

Slaughter PaulPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lincoln, NE
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joseph Cacciapaglia:

My favorite strategy when short on cash is bringing in a partner. In your case, finding someone with experience to help you with your first deal would be ideal. However, it's going to be difficult to find a partner that is interested in paying $30K over the current value (assuming your agent is correct). If you're able to negotiate a substantial discount, it will make the process of finding a partner much easier.

I put an offer of 170k that was rejected. The property has been on the market for months so I’m hoping the selling will eventually start entertaining lower offers on the property due to everything that is happening in today’s economy. Besides, my max is 170k and I’m hoping to be in the first of the line when he does.