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All Forum Posts by: Skye Penland

Skye Penland has started 15 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: Pensacola, agent needed cash ready!

Skye PenlandPosted
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Great question, thanks for asking it. We currently own a few different properties and are at period where we want to be a little risky. We live about an hour or so from our target market and want to pursue a BRRRR for the potential ability to continually roll over our funds and to gain more doors. BUT we also want to go through the process of a BRRRR to learn the process from more than just a book setting. 

We are not risk adverse, never have been. Risk to reward, high risk, high failure… high reward. Money is just money at the end of the day.


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Quote from @Skye Penland:

Hey Everyone, 

my wife and I are ready to jump in and attempt a BRRRR. We have, and do own other real estate but have purchased through traditional means. We currently have approx $150,000 cash on hand to purchase and rehab a property. We are looking in Pensacola and we're hoping to connect with some local investors, agents etc.

Let’s connect! 
Skye


The BRRR is a high risk strategy in my humble opinion. It can also be a great strategy if everything goes right. Are you looking to do a BRRR because you want to continually roll your money over, or because you have specific experience that correlates to being to oversee a great BRRR?


Post: Pensacola, agent needed cash ready!

Skye PenlandPosted
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  • Posts 44
  • Votes 8

Hey Everyone, 

my wife and I are ready to jump in and attempt a BRRRR. We have, and do own other real estate but have purchased through traditional means. We currently have approx $150,000 cash on hand to purchase and rehab a property. We are looking in Pensacola and we're hoping to connect with some local investors, agents etc.

Let’s connect! 
Skye

Post: Short term rental Destin Fl

Skye PenlandPosted
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@Skye Penland I should add that I am a traveling nurse with with a weird W2 setup... so that also made things crazy.

Post: Short term rental Destin Fl

Skye PenlandPosted
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Hey Guys,

We closed on a quadplex in Destin Fl today, super excited. It is in CBN area and about a block from the beach. We used my Va loan at a purchase price of 1,000,000 at an interest rate of 2.3. This deal has been really crazy through the whole process. We have been offered 1,400,000 to sell and they are considering offering more. This property has amazing potential. Here is a look at a sliver of what we had to deal with to get here:

1. A jumbo Va Loan with no funding fee due to me being a 70% disabled veteran.

2. A lot of back and forth with the appraiser and hiring a Realestate attorney to gently force her hand...... TONS more of this but it would take a whole post to convey the info.

3. We put the offer in January 14th and had to extend 2-3 times with an irritated seller because of our legal fight with the appraiser.

4. AFTER the appraiser changed her verbiage on a few key points in her report the deal almost fell through again after the Lender tried to change the terms of our approval, luckily our loan POC was on top of things and fought hard to reverse their decision.

4. It is a grandfathered use multi-family property in a primarily dominant single family STR zone.

5. It is in a small pocket of flood zone X where every other home is VE or worse. We got lucky...

It has been crazy.

The property will be our primary residence, we will live in the 3/2.5 and are hoping to STR the other three units as the leases expire (2/1, 1/1, 1/1). We have three other STR properties across the country so we are not new to AIRBNB etc.

I am hoping to get some info and guidance on the process for Florida and Destin In getting the property set up as an STR. When we first started talking to the city PRIOR to the appraisal they said all we had to do was file a change of use form. To change the use from long term multifamily to Short term multifamily.... Now after closing today when we called they said this:

“Multifamily (both short term and long term) is a conditional use in the Crystal Beach Neighborhood zoning district, and therefore allowed (not a grandfathered/nonconforming use). However, as short-term multifamily is a conditional use in that district, you would be required to apply for a Conditional Use Approval in addition to the Change of Use. This application requires two public hearings from the Local Planning Agency and City Council, and can take a minimum of 60 days.”

Does anyone have experience with this? We understand the “state” requirements for licensing and taxes... but dealing with Destin has been hard.

Any insight? I mean could they just tell us “no” what are our options if they deny us?

Thanks!

Are there any updates to this purchase? 

Post: Quadplex ins average or ideas

Skye PenlandPosted
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@Raymond J. Rodrigues I would love his info! It’s the panhandle area.

Post: Quadplex ins average or ideas

Skye PenlandPosted
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Hey guys! We are wondering what the average home owners insurance would be on a 4-plex. The property is located in Florida near the coast, not in a flood zone, not in a CoBra area. The purchase price is 1,000,000. What costs would you guys estimate for owner occupied multifamily 4-plex homeowners?

Thanks!

Post: How to broach owner financing

Skye PenlandPosted
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Hey guys.

We have a neighbor who owns two cabins and is selling one... They have told us they would like to sell the other one but would owe too much capital gains on it and wish they could find away around it. They are older and retired and don’t see them selves investing anymore. How do we broach seller financing and what benefits would they get out of it?

Thanks

Skye

Post: VA loan and ready to buy

Skye PenlandPosted
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 Hey! Thank you for the reply. Do you have experience going this route? What would you look for in terms of location? I am guessing semi-urban, college town?

Post: VA loan and ready to buy

Skye PenlandPosted
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Originally posted by @Jacob Pereira:

I used my VA loan many years ago on a duplex in Austin. Knowing what I know now I definitely would've done the same thing you're doing and bought a fourplex instead. Like you said, the question is a bit vague, but I'll tell you my basic thoughts and it might help you narrow your scope:

1. Decide why are you doing this? To make money, of course, but really you're doing this to improve your life, perhaps soon, perhaps far into the future, and perhaps at retirement. If you want a decent life now, realize that most fourplexes are in rougher areas and are farther away from amenities, so look for areas where that's not the case. Any Realtor on BP would happily set you up on your MLS, so reach out to a few markets that you think might fit.

2. What can you get? Since there's no longer a limit on the VA loan, talk to your lender about what the max amount you can borrow is. This will definitely help you cross off some markets.

3. What amount of discretionary income do you want to have? From a purely financial standpoint, it makes sense to maximize your loan and buy right at the top of what they'll let you buy, but that might leave you very little to enjoy life.

I won't mention things like where can you find a job, do you have a support system, etc. because I'm sure you've already thought of that stuff. There are tons of factors to consider, so as you get farther along in the process, please post more so we can give more detailed advice/opinions.

Thank you for the detailed and though provoking post. In all honesty this potential property needs to be a a turn key STR property. If it is a 4-plex, ideally at 70% monthly occupancy 2 units would cover the cost of the unit. The one LTR would be profit and our personal unit would be profit when we are on contract elsewhere (9 mos out of the year).