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All Forum Posts by: Sky Cornell

Sky Cornell has started 3 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Single family with ADU

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $495,000
Cash invested: $75,000

$2,500 Cash flowing single family with an ADU

Post: What does a proper partnership arrangment look like?

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

One person should be the deal finder/operator (no money out of pocket) and one person should bring all capital. These relationships are usually split 50/50 and mutually beneficial 


 I totally agree but even if that means them coming in with $100k-$200k (Money down & remodel expenses)? It would take 4-5 years to recoup that and I don't see too many being ok with that arrangement which would lead to resentment IMO...

Post: What does a proper partnership arrangment look like?

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Janel Kolbo:
Quote from @Sky Cornell:

I am a Realtor, Contractor, LTR/STR Investor and Property Manager. I get asked all the time by friends and family to "go in a property together" but I can't seem to find a scenario where that makes sense to me. I know i'll end up doing everything (find, buy, fix up, and manage) so a 50/50 arrangement just doesn't seem fair. I don't want either side to grow resentfull. The only reason why I would partner with someone is to free me up to purchase more properties (both financially and debt to income)...but if I'm still coming in with half the expenses and doing all the work, it doesn't really make sense.

Any suggestions?


 What are they offering to bring to the deal? My guess is you would be the contractor. In that case, they should be the one financing. 


Yes Janel, I would be the Realtor, Contractor, and STR Property Manager. I could put my commission back into the deal for remodel and furnishings I suppose...but nothing more...then an even split?

Post: What does a proper partnership arrangment look like?

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Luka Milicevic:

The arrangement you have listed makes no sense I would never agree to it.

All of my partnerships have me doing 100% of the work with 0% of the funds. My partners serve no other purpose than to provide the funds. There's no way I'm putting in 50% of the funds and doing 100% of the work and only reaping 50% of the benefits. That just doesn't work for me. 

One thing I wish I knew sooner was to have an exit place in plan. At some point, you and your partners are going to have life changes and you may or may not want to be in the deal anymore. Have an exit plan in writing for when that day comes. 

I totally agree Luka because that is the reality...I'll end up doing everything. I love your idea, but you don't find that to be a hard sale to a potential partner? What does a reimbursement schedule look like? All profits go to them first till the money is payed back, then it's an even 50/50 split?....or are the profits split 50/50 from there on and that's their price for doing business?

Post: What does a proper partnership arrangment look like?

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

I am a Realtor, Contractor, LTR/STR Investor and Property Manager. I get asked all the time by friends and family to "go in a property together" but I can't seem to find a scenario where that makes sense to me. I know i'll end up doing everything (find, buy, fix up, and manage) so a 50/50 arrangement just doesn't seem fair. I don't want either side to grow resentfull. The only reason why I would partner with someone is to free me up to purchase more properties (both financially and debt to income)...but if I'm still coming in with half the expenses and doing all the work, it doesn't really make sense.

Any suggestions?

Post: Can't afford a Triplex? Create one & Profit!

Sky CornellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orange, CA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 2

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Fullerton.

Purchase price: $570,000
Cash invested: $200,000

I purchased a 3bed/1bath home with a permitted "workshop" and a permitted "family room". I couldn't afford a Triplex nor did I want to come in with 20% down, so I chose to "create" a Triplex and only come in with 5% down and instead spend the extra money on the remodel so that I could get max rents.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I purchased a home 4 years ago that had a permitted "Rumpus Room" and after I remodeled it and added a kitchen, it rented out for over half my mortgage while still leaving me an entire 3bed/2bath main house to rent out. I've made over $1,500 a month on that property since the day I bought it and never paid a mortgage!

The light bulb went on. I figured if two homes on one lot was this good, why not go for three?! It was all part of my construction background anyways, so it was easy to do.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I simply searched on Zillow & Redfin like everyone else. I'd love to get the Off Market deals but never knew how, so I was forced to get creative with what I did know, which was construction.

They originally asked $630k, I said $570k, we met at $600k but surprisingly the house only appraised for $560k. I was bummed. I needed my cash for the rehab so I went to back out but before I did, I gave them one last shot at $570k...and they accepted!

How did you finance this deal?

Conventional 30yr with 5% down. This is my go-to for financing because I'd rather save the money for the rehab costs...that's how you maximize your cashflow because a remodeled home with the highest rents, will always trump saving money on a mortgage with extra money down, but no longer having money to rehab and get good rent.

How did you add value to the deal?

The Main House was totally remodeled. I currently rent that one out on Airbnb & VRBO. It has over 100 5-star reviews.

The "Workshop" was converted into a permitted 2bed/1bath "ADU" (Accessory Dwelling Unit) which is rented long term but I plan to also rent on Airbnb once my tenant's lease is up.

The "Family room" was walled off from the main house and converted into a 420sq ft 1 bed/1bath incredible apartment with 10' ceilings and is where i live today and "House Hack".

What was the outcome?

I spent a lot of hard cash but knew that I was playing the long game on this one. I was able to turn this single home into 3 very high producing rentals on one property that cashflows $4k a month over my PITI & operating expenses, and as soon as I move out and make the back house an Airbnb, it will cash flow over $8k a month with only a 3 year ROI.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The single most important thing to consider when dividing up a single family lot into a multi-fam is PRIVACY. If people feel uncomfortable in their home, they won't stay or pay max rents for it. Lot layout design is everything here from separate entrances to fencing off areas. I even boarded up windows & doors that opened or peered into the other people's area & added them back elsewhere while adding trees and hedges. They have to feel like no one else lives on the property to feel comfortable.