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All Forum Posts by: Holden Smith

Holden Smith has started 3 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Personal debt vs RE investing dilemma phase 2

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0

@Account Closed

We want to have a net worth of $1M in 7-10 years and retire by 55. My intention of lowering my payment is to lock in really low interest rate loans that have a small payment. I cannot justify paying off loans at 4.5% when a long term rental I buy will have a higher interest rate. And student loans have tax benefits as well. 

Post: Personal debt vs RE investing dilemma phase 2

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0

About a year and a half ago my wife and I decided that we wanted to get into real estate investing. In particular buy/hold single family homes in the Kansas City area. However between the two of us we had $70,237 in student loan debt as of 8/15. (I've been keeping track of our net worth since then bc of Gary Keller's recommendation from the Millionaire Real estate Investor). My dilemma is what to do with our student loan debt. We have paid down the majority of our 6.8% rate loans and now have the option to consolidate the remainder at great rates. We now have a total of $41,000 of student loan debt as of 9/16. Here are our numbers.

Wife

Her current payment is $350 a month because Navient updated her payment plan. The 2.4% loans are variable rates and have a term of 5yrs they refuse to change the term on these loans. Thus, I looked into consolidating bc it was the only option to not pay off the low interest rates on 5yr terms.

She will have the option to consolidate at the following amt/rate.

$17,606 at 4.75% for 20 years the payment will be $113 a month. (We get a %0.25 rate decrease when we pay with an auto debit payment. Thus, it will actually be 4.5%)

She will still have about $6,000 at 6.8% to pay off.

Me

I have the option to consolidate at the following amt/rate.

$17,398 at 4.75% for 15 years the payment will be $135 a month. (We get a %0.25 rate decrease when we pay with an auto debit payment. Thus, it will actually be 4.5%)


My question is what is your opinion about what we should do. I think that we should consolidate with the scenario mentioned above and once my wife’s 6.8% loans are paid off start paying the minimum due and save for real estate or other investing opportunities. What are your thoughts. Are we doing the right thing by consolidating? I know that student loans have awesome tax benefits.  

Post: Student loan/investing plan dilemma

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0

About a year and a half ago my wife and I decided that we wanted to get into real estate investing. In particular buy/hold single family homes in the Kansas City area. However between the two of us we had $70,237 in student loan debt as of 8/15. (I've been keeping track of our net worth since then bc of Gary Keller's recommendation from the Millionaire Real estate Investor). My dilemma is what to do with our student loan debt. We have paid down the majority of our 6.8% rate loans and now have the option to consolidate the remainder at great rates. We now have a total of $41,000 of student loan debt as of 9/16. Here are our numbers.

Wife

Her current payment is $350 a month because Navient updated her payment plan. The 2.4% loans are variable rates and have a term of 5yrs they refuse to change the term on these loans. Thus, I looked into consolidating bc it was the only option to not pay off the low interest rates on 5yr terms.

She will have the option to consolidate at the following amt/rate.

$17,606 at 4.75% for 20 years the payment will be $113 a month. (We get a %0.25 rate decrease when we pay with an auto debit payment. Thus, it will actually be 4.5%)

She will still have about $6,000 at 6.8% to pay off.

Me

I have the option to consolidate at the following amt/rate.

$17,398 at 4.75% for 15 years the payment will be $135 a month. (We get a %0.25 rate decrease when we pay with an auto debit payment. Thus, it will actually be 4.5%)


My question is what is your opinion about what we should do. I think that we should consolidate with the scenario mentioned above and once my wife’s 6.8% loans are paid off start paying the minimum due and save for real estate or other investing opportunities. What are your thoughts. Are we doing the right thing by consolidating? I know that student loans have awesome tax benefits. I really appreciate your feedback.  

Post: Save for down payment or payoff debt before investing

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Rob Sasser:

I would save all your cash. Your debts are all at low interest rates and you should be able to generate better then 5% return on the money that you invest, so just from a numbers stand point it is better to invest the money. And your student loan interest is tax deductible anyway so you'll get 20-30 percent of that back in taxes(depending on your bracket). So really that rate ends up only being 3.5-4%.  When a deal pops up you are going to need the cash to jump on it. Why wait by spending time paying down debts first. Just my take on things. 

 Thanks Rob. I factored in the student loan tax benefits they're actually more like 6 percent. Thanks for your feedback!

Post: Save for down payment or payoff debt before investing

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

@Holden Smith Welcome to Biggerpockets!

Be sure to check out past forum posts and blog articles that deal with the specific situation you are looking to navigate. There is a wealth of information on all subjects that deal with REI.

Your current mortgage is 2.625%??  Is that a fixed or variable rate?

It's fixed no money down or pmi either :-). I made it through the NACA program.

Post: Save for down payment or payoff debt before investing

Holden SmithPosted
  • Lees Summit, MO
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 0

I am 25 and my wife is 27. We take home about $4,500 a month. We have a mortgage on our home that we bought just 2 years ago (no equity) and have about $80,000 in student loan debt at about 5%. I am looking for advise about how we should plan to get into REI. Should I plan to stock up our cash or paydown debts to give us a better cash flow from our jobs to buy our first rental. We are targeting single family rental homes. Here are our debt payments per month:

Student loan @ 5% (23 years left) ($370)

Car 1 @ 3.6% (2.4 years left) ($260) about a $7,500 balance left.

Car 2 @ 0% (4 months left) ($240)

Current mortgage @ 2.625% (28 years left) ($970)

Roth contribution +$850

We currently have $10,000 in our Roths. We want to get started after I finish my MBA (my employer is paying for it) in the Spring of 2016. We plan to buy a house that is about $100,000 and maybe make $150ish a month cash flow. We will need about $25,000 to get started. I've done a lot of research about my market and feel comfortable jumping in, but am trying to decide the best path to get started. My plan is to pay off Car 1 to free up cashflow so that we will have less payments to worry about when we buy our rental house. If I do this I'll be able to "snow ball" and save more money. However, cash is king and my gut is telling me to save the money and just keep making the car payments. What would you do if you were in my situation? My wife and I are conservative people who grew up with parents living pay check to pay check. We would really like to avoid that.